EPA is After Our Race Cars [MERGED]
02-12-2016, 11:48 AM
#61
the thing that gets me is. that it's a re-wording. so statute of limitations is backdated to 1979. that means Dan gurney is a real criminal and punishable of hundreds of years on prison.
and srew the governing body that says we "are going to make a law and not act on it." that's the biggest pile of ****. all it takes is a bad hair day for that ideology to change.
and srew the governing body that says we "are going to make a law and not act on it." that's the biggest pile of ****. all it takes is a bad hair day for that ideology to change.
02-12-2016, 01:28 PM
#63
Instructor
We need to start getting the word out beyond the forum and encourage people to contact their congressmen about this, its going to take a strong push back to stop this before its done and too late.
02-12-2016, 01:40 PM
#64
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by kevinj0101
We need to start getting the word out beyond the forum and encourage people to contact their congressmen about this, its going to take a strong push back to stop this before its done and too late.
02-12-2016, 04:46 PM
#65
Safety Car
By SEMA Washington, D.C., Staff (2-11-2016)
EPA Proposed Regulation:
Under the EPA proposed regulation, certified motor vehicles and engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition. Violators would be subject to the fines and penalties included in the tampering prohibitions.
SEMA’s Understanding of Proposal as Confirmed by the EPA:
SEMA representatives met with EPA officials on January 20, 2016 to confirm the association’s understanding of the proposed regulation. The EPA officials confirmed that the regulation would make it illegal to convert a certified motor vehicle into a vehicle to be used solely for competition. The EPA officials claimed that this had always been their interpretation of the Clean Air Act.
Myth: This proposal is not changing current law.
Congress never intended the Clean Air Act to be interpreted as giving the EPA the authority to regulate vehicles used solely for competition, regardless of whether the vehicles were once emissions-certified road vehicles. Once a vehicle is taken out of use as a road vehicle and dedicated solely to racing, it is beyond the laws which apply to road vehicles. The EPA and SEMA fundamentally disagree on this point. SEMA has cited the statutory text, legislative history, and congressional intent of the Clean Air Act, as well as 46 years of history whereby vehicles have been converted from certified road status to status as race vehicles without any objection from EPA.
Myth: The EPA is merely clarifying the law as it relates to motor vehicles and nonroad vehicles, and its proposal only affects vehicles driven on the streets.
The EPA is adding new language to the regulations. This new language states that a motor vehicle can never be modified, even if it is used solely for competition and never again used on public roads. The EPA is seeking to prohibit modifications affecting any emissions-related component, such as engines, engine control modules, intakes, exhaust systems, etc.
Myth: The EPA’s proposal only affects medium- and heavy-duty vehicles.
The EPA inserted the problematic language into a rulemaking that focuses on medium- and heavy-duty vehicles, however, the rulemaking also includes a section entitled “Miscellaneous EPA Amendments.” The language affecting “vehicles used solely for competition” (i.e., racecars) was a “miscellaneous EPA amendment” and would, in fact, affect all light-duty vehicles, not just trucks.
Myth: SEMA is overreacting, this will never get passed.
The EPA has issued a proposed regulation. Regulations are issued by federal agencies and not voted on by elected representatives. If the language becomes final (EPA is expected to issue a final regulation in July), then it will have the force of law and can only be challenged in federal court or overturned by Congress.
Myth: The EPA could not enforce this proposal.
The proposal would give the EPA the power to enforce against any vehicle owner that converts his or her emissions-controlled motor vehicle into a vehicle to be used solely for competition. Whether or not the EPA chooses to enforce, it would be illegal for an individual to convert their motor vehicle. Additionally, the EPA has stated that it will enforce against aftermarket companies that sell parts for use on the converted vehicles, which will limit racers’ access to parts.
Myth: The EPA’s proposal would not affect vehicles that have already been converted into racecars.
It is the EPA’s position that they will be able to enforce against vehicles that have already been converted in the past. While the EPA has indicated that it does not currently plan on enforcing against individuals, it does plan on going after the companies supplying parts for vehicles that have already been converted. So, if you have a racecar that began life as a street car, this regulation would affect your access to parts, and leave you open to enforcement if the agency so chooses.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal would not affect racecars with original emissions controls.
The EPA notes that race vehicles with original, unmodified emission controls, including the original engine configuration, engine control module, intake and exhaust components, do not violate the law. The issue is that very few competition race vehicles have been left unmodified and in a certified configuration.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal would not affect purpose-built racecars, such as sprint cars, open-wheel dragsters and the cars that currently compete in NASCAR.
The EPA agrees that vehicles that were originally manufactured for racing are excluded from regulation under the Clean Air Act. However, the EPA believes this exclusion extends only to vehicles that were never certified for on-road use or issued a VIN.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal will not affect the exemption for “nonroad vehicles,” such as dirt bikes, ATVs, snowmobiles and boats used solely for competition.
The EPA has indicated that it will continue to allow “nonroad vehicles” (dirt bikes, ATVs, snowmobiles, boats) to be exempted from certain emissions regulations if they are used solely for competition. Distinct from its stance on motor vehicles, however, the EPA’s current position on nonroad vehicles allows emissions-certified nonroad vehicles to be converted into vehicles used solely for competition.
Get the Facts for Yourself:
Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles--Phase 2, 80 Fed. Reg. 40,138 (July 13, 2015), docket no. EPA–HQ–OAR–2014–0827:
Please use the search function to locate this provision within the proposed regulation:
PART 86--CONTROL OF EMISSIONS FROM NEW AND IN-USE HIGHWAY VEHICLES AND ENGINES
***
Subpart S--General Compliance Provisions for Control of Air Pollution From New and In-Use Light-Duty Vehicles, Light-Duty Trucks, and Heavy-Duty Vehicles
***
67. Section 86.1854-12 is amended by adding paragraph (b)(5) to read as follows:
§ 86.1854-12 Prohibited acts.
* * * * *
(b) * * *
(5) Certified motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition or if they become nonroad vehicles or engines; anyone modifying a certified motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine for any reason is subject to the tampering and defeat device prohibitions of paragraph (a)(3) of this section and 42 U.S.C. 7522(a)(3).
To review SEMA’s comments to the EPA proposal, go to: http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...-2014-0827-146
EPA Proposed Regulation:
Under the EPA proposed regulation, certified motor vehicles and engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition. Violators would be subject to the fines and penalties included in the tampering prohibitions.
SEMA’s Understanding of Proposal as Confirmed by the EPA:
SEMA representatives met with EPA officials on January 20, 2016 to confirm the association’s understanding of the proposed regulation. The EPA officials confirmed that the regulation would make it illegal to convert a certified motor vehicle into a vehicle to be used solely for competition. The EPA officials claimed that this had always been their interpretation of the Clean Air Act.
Myth: This proposal is not changing current law.
Congress never intended the Clean Air Act to be interpreted as giving the EPA the authority to regulate vehicles used solely for competition, regardless of whether the vehicles were once emissions-certified road vehicles. Once a vehicle is taken out of use as a road vehicle and dedicated solely to racing, it is beyond the laws which apply to road vehicles. The EPA and SEMA fundamentally disagree on this point. SEMA has cited the statutory text, legislative history, and congressional intent of the Clean Air Act, as well as 46 years of history whereby vehicles have been converted from certified road status to status as race vehicles without any objection from EPA.
Myth: The EPA is merely clarifying the law as it relates to motor vehicles and nonroad vehicles, and its proposal only affects vehicles driven on the streets.
The EPA is adding new language to the regulations. This new language states that a motor vehicle can never be modified, even if it is used solely for competition and never again used on public roads. The EPA is seeking to prohibit modifications affecting any emissions-related component, such as engines, engine control modules, intakes, exhaust systems, etc.
Myth: The EPA’s proposal only affects medium- and heavy-duty vehicles.
The EPA inserted the problematic language into a rulemaking that focuses on medium- and heavy-duty vehicles, however, the rulemaking also includes a section entitled “Miscellaneous EPA Amendments.” The language affecting “vehicles used solely for competition” (i.e., racecars) was a “miscellaneous EPA amendment” and would, in fact, affect all light-duty vehicles, not just trucks.
Myth: SEMA is overreacting, this will never get passed.
The EPA has issued a proposed regulation. Regulations are issued by federal agencies and not voted on by elected representatives. If the language becomes final (EPA is expected to issue a final regulation in July), then it will have the force of law and can only be challenged in federal court or overturned by Congress.
Myth: The EPA could not enforce this proposal.
The proposal would give the EPA the power to enforce against any vehicle owner that converts his or her emissions-controlled motor vehicle into a vehicle to be used solely for competition. Whether or not the EPA chooses to enforce, it would be illegal for an individual to convert their motor vehicle. Additionally, the EPA has stated that it will enforce against aftermarket companies that sell parts for use on the converted vehicles, which will limit racers’ access to parts.
Myth: The EPA’s proposal would not affect vehicles that have already been converted into racecars.
It is the EPA’s position that they will be able to enforce against vehicles that have already been converted in the past. While the EPA has indicated that it does not currently plan on enforcing against individuals, it does plan on going after the companies supplying parts for vehicles that have already been converted. So, if you have a racecar that began life as a street car, this regulation would affect your access to parts, and leave you open to enforcement if the agency so chooses.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal would not affect racecars with original emissions controls.
The EPA notes that race vehicles with original, unmodified emission controls, including the original engine configuration, engine control module, intake and exhaust components, do not violate the law. The issue is that very few competition race vehicles have been left unmodified and in a certified configuration.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal would not affect purpose-built racecars, such as sprint cars, open-wheel dragsters and the cars that currently compete in NASCAR.
The EPA agrees that vehicles that were originally manufactured for racing are excluded from regulation under the Clean Air Act. However, the EPA believes this exclusion extends only to vehicles that were never certified for on-road use or issued a VIN.
Fact: The EPA’s proposal will not affect the exemption for “nonroad vehicles,” such as dirt bikes, ATVs, snowmobiles and boats used solely for competition.
The EPA has indicated that it will continue to allow “nonroad vehicles” (dirt bikes, ATVs, snowmobiles, boats) to be exempted from certain emissions regulations if they are used solely for competition. Distinct from its stance on motor vehicles, however, the EPA’s current position on nonroad vehicles allows emissions-certified nonroad vehicles to be converted into vehicles used solely for competition.
Get the Facts for Yourself:
Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles--Phase 2, 80 Fed. Reg. 40,138 (July 13, 2015), docket no. EPA–HQ–OAR–2014–0827:
Please use the search function to locate this provision within the proposed regulation:
PART 86--CONTROL OF EMISSIONS FROM NEW AND IN-USE HIGHWAY VEHICLES AND ENGINES
***
Subpart S--General Compliance Provisions for Control of Air Pollution From New and In-Use Light-Duty Vehicles, Light-Duty Trucks, and Heavy-Duty Vehicles
***
67. Section 86.1854-12 is amended by adding paragraph (b)(5) to read as follows:
§ 86.1854-12 Prohibited acts.
* * * * *
(b) * * *
(5) Certified motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition or if they become nonroad vehicles or engines; anyone modifying a certified motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine for any reason is subject to the tampering and defeat device prohibitions of paragraph (a)(3) of this section and 42 U.S.C. 7522(a)(3).
To review SEMA’s comments to the EPA proposal, go to: http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...-2014-0827-146
I think this shock is good for the enthusiasts. I've learned what SEMA does, had no idea is anything more than a trade show. Now will follow and petition and donate $ going forward. Bad move EPA.
02-12-2016, 04:49 PM
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Safety Car
02-12-2016, 10:38 PM
#68
Le Mans Master
This is the best review I've seen on the EPA move and rings true with the bits I've read.
I think this shock is good for the enthusiasts. I've learned what SEMA does, had no idea is anything more than a trade show. Now will follow and petition and donate $ going forward. Bad move EPA.
I think this shock is good for the enthusiasts. I've learned what SEMA does, had no idea is anything more than a trade show. Now will follow and petition and donate $ going forward. Bad move EPA.
I'm trying semi-hard not to make this political, but if other (IMO) frige groups can gave their say in front of congressmen via lobbyist, then why can't you and me?
02-15-2016, 06:44 PM
#69
Safety Car
For everyone who thinks "This will never affect me", think again. The EPA has and will fine you for collecting rainwater that runs off your roof. And the BLM is federalizing all the ranchland in the west (more under this administration than any other with another 2-3 million acres this year to come) The level of government overreach has grown to Soviet proportions. 
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02-15-2016, 07:32 PM
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02-18-2016, 07:43 AM
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Forgive me if I missed this, but MotorTrends take:
http://www.motortrend.com/news/epas-...e-aftermarket/
http://www.motortrend.com/news/epas-...e-aftermarket/
02-18-2016, 09:51 AM
#72
Le Mans Master
All,
I know there is a "political" sub-forum here, so I will not make this political, BUT...
If you care about the future of our sport and hobby, and the manufacturers and jobs that support what we do, then you need to vote and you need to know who you're voting for and where they stand on these types of issues.
This will not go away.
I know there is a "political" sub-forum here, so I will not make this political, BUT...
If you care about the future of our sport and hobby, and the manufacturers and jobs that support what we do, then you need to vote and you need to know who you're voting for and where they stand on these types of issues.
This will not go away.
03-08-2016, 12:17 PM
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Here's your chance to do something about our "friends" at the EPA.
http://semasan.com/issue_alert.asp?g...paign=LegAlert
Follow the link and send a letter to your representative.
http://semasan.com/issue_alert.asp?g...paign=LegAlert
Follow the link and send a letter to your representative.
03-09-2016, 02:44 PM
#74
Le Mans Master
Update...
http://www.onallcylinders.com/2016/0...rts-suppliers/
http://www.onallcylinders.com/2016/0...rts-suppliers/
Congressional Bill Seeks to Protect Race Car Enthusiasts from EPA Regulations
Congress has introduced a bipartisan bill that would protect race car enthusiasts from the EPA’s latest effort to prohibit the conversion of street vehicles into race cars. Known as the RPM Act, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016 was drafted to ensure that turning street vehicles into race cars driven exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act.
Supporters of this legislation to overturn the EPA regulation may contact members of Congress and urge them to support the RPM Act by clicking here. SEMA has already voiced its support for the bill in a statement released earlier today:
Washington, DC (March 8, 2016) – SEMA President and CEO Chris Kersting today praised Congressional members for their introduction of a bipartisan bill that would protect thousands of American racecar enthusiasts from overreaching U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations.
“The EPA’s new interpretation of the Clean Air Act would essentially rewrite the law and 46 years of policy and practice,” said Kersting. “Without congressional intervention, the racing community and racing parts manufacturers would be operating outside of that new law and could be targeted for enforcement.” The language in H.R. 4715 makes clear Congress’ intent to exclude competition-only cars from the scope of the Clean Air Act, including converted street vehicles.
H.R. 4715, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016 (RPM Act) was introduced by U.S. Representatives Patrick McHenry (R-NC), Henry Cuellar (D-TX), Richard Hudson (R-NC), Bill Posey (R-FL) and Lee Zeldin (R-NY) to ensure that converting street vehicles to racecars used exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act. The practice was unquestioned until last year when the EPA published draft regulations that would make vehicle and engine conversions illegal and subject to the law’s tampering penalties.
Congress has introduced a bipartisan bill that would protect race car enthusiasts from the EPA’s latest effort to prohibit the conversion of street vehicles into race cars. Known as the RPM Act, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016 was drafted to ensure that turning street vehicles into race cars driven exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act.
Supporters of this legislation to overturn the EPA regulation may contact members of Congress and urge them to support the RPM Act by clicking here. SEMA has already voiced its support for the bill in a statement released earlier today:
Washington, DC (March 8, 2016) – SEMA President and CEO Chris Kersting today praised Congressional members for their introduction of a bipartisan bill that would protect thousands of American racecar enthusiasts from overreaching U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations.
“The EPA’s new interpretation of the Clean Air Act would essentially rewrite the law and 46 years of policy and practice,” said Kersting. “Without congressional intervention, the racing community and racing parts manufacturers would be operating outside of that new law and could be targeted for enforcement.” The language in H.R. 4715 makes clear Congress’ intent to exclude competition-only cars from the scope of the Clean Air Act, including converted street vehicles.
H.R. 4715, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016 (RPM Act) was introduced by U.S. Representatives Patrick McHenry (R-NC), Henry Cuellar (D-TX), Richard Hudson (R-NC), Bill Posey (R-FL) and Lee Zeldin (R-NY) to ensure that converting street vehicles to racecars used exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act. The practice was unquestioned until last year when the EPA published draft regulations that would make vehicle and engine conversions illegal and subject to the law’s tampering penalties.
03-14-2016, 12:31 PM
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A lot of supposition, assumptions and spin in this thread. I am more concerned with the actual language from the EPA:
The EPA regulation reads, "Certified motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition or if they become nonroad vehicles or engines. 80 Fed. Reg. 40138, 40565 (July 13, 2015)."
Trump wants to abolish the EPA. I really like that idea.
The EPA regulation reads, "Certified motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition or if they become nonroad vehicles or engines. 80 Fed. Reg. 40138, 40565 (July 13, 2015)."
Trump wants to abolish the EPA. I really like that idea.
03-21-2016, 03:52 PM
#77
Melting Slicks
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03-21-2016, 03:54 PM
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Melting Slicks
The Feds want all of us in electric only cars within 10 years....
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03-24-2016, 05:08 PM
#79
Melting Slicks
Guys,
Here is a link that will allow you to fill in your info and automatically send a letter to your representatives to support "The Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016" (RPM Act) to protect racecars from overreaching EPA regulations and ensure that converting street vehicles to racecars used exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act.
https://www.votervoice.net/SEMA/camp...campaign=eNews
Here is a link that will allow you to fill in your info and automatically send a letter to your representatives to support "The Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016" (RPM Act) to protect racecars from overreaching EPA regulations and ensure that converting street vehicles to racecars used exclusively in competition does not violate the Clean Air Act.
https://www.votervoice.net/SEMA/camp...campaign=eNews
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