When to Replace C5 Calipers
#2
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If you are going to be doing track time long term, I would go with a brake kit. My only regret is that I did not do it sooner. I have the old basic Hardbar T1 kit with AP calipers and stock rotors.
With the stock C5 Z06 calipers, I never experienced the permanent caliper deformation, but pad taper was always a problem. I flipped pads to minimize the long pedal, but I never felt as good as fresh pads did. I can see why T1 racers used to sell off all their "slightly used" race pads for cheap.
Stock calipers are just over $100 apiece, so that is is the least cost option, but at the price of C5 pads, it didn't take long to recover the cost of my kit. Not only are the Wilwood 7420 profile pads at least $100 cheaper per axle set, but they are significantly thicker than stock and last a lot longer.
I guess that i got off topic... I would try to measure the caliper with a caliper and anything more than a few thousandths would indicate caliper yield. A long time ago, I was told that if you run a brake fluid with 500F dry boiling point you may not have a problem with caliper spread as the fluid will boil before you get the caliper hot enough to reduce it's mechanical properties.
Hope this helps.
With the stock C5 Z06 calipers, I never experienced the permanent caliper deformation, but pad taper was always a problem. I flipped pads to minimize the long pedal, but I never felt as good as fresh pads did. I can see why T1 racers used to sell off all their "slightly used" race pads for cheap.
Stock calipers are just over $100 apiece, so that is is the least cost option, but at the price of C5 pads, it didn't take long to recover the cost of my kit. Not only are the Wilwood 7420 profile pads at least $100 cheaper per axle set, but they are significantly thicker than stock and last a lot longer.
I guess that i got off topic... I would try to measure the caliper with a caliper and anything more than a few thousandths would indicate caliper yield. A long time ago, I was told that if you run a brake fluid with 500F dry boiling point you may not have a problem with caliper spread as the fluid will boil before you get the caliper hot enough to reduce it's mechanical properties.
Hope this helps.
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Stock calipers are just over $100 apiece, so that is is the least cost option, but at the price of C5 pads, it didn't take long to recover the cost of my kit. Not only are the Wilwood 7420 profile pads at least $100 cheaper per axle set, but they are significantly thicker than stock and last a lot longer.
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Stock calipers are just over $100 apiece, so that is is the least cost option, but at the price of C5 pads, it didn't take long to recover the cost of my kit. Not only are the Wilwood 7420 profile pads at least $100 cheaper per axle set, but they are significantly thicker than stock and last a lot longer.
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If you are going to be doing track time long term, I would go with a brake kit.....
.....A long time ago, I was told that if you run a brake fluid with 500F dry boiling point you may not have a problem with caliper spread as the fluid will boil before you get the caliper hot enough to reduce it's mechanical properties.......
.....A long time ago, I was told that if you run a brake fluid with 500F dry boiling point you may not have a problem with caliper spread as the fluid will boil before you get the caliper hot enough to reduce it's mechanical properties.......
Check out http://www.matweb.com/search/datashe...c7777d9e10be5b
Between 300 degrees and 400 degrees the yield strength for aluminum drops by half.
At 500 degrees the yield strength is 1/8 of what it is at room temp.
So the only smart thing to do is run old wet no name brake fluid to save the OEM calipers.......
Or a brake kit.
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Thanks for all the replies. I definitely do not have a long pedal so I guess I'm ok for now. I run PFC01's and they don't require monstrous amounts of pedal pressure so maybe thats been helping (plus I only do about 4 track days / year).
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Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 05-06-2016 at 02:16 PM.