No thermostat?
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Well it would really suck if we could have not paid $1000 bucks for the big Ron davis radiator and just blocked the bypass!
Picture is really small.
So the bypass blocking basically covers the inner hole. Does it also prevent the heater from working because no coolant leaves the small stainless steel pipe that goes to the heater block? Or is the bypass block more like a 50 cent piece covering the hole? If so how can we DIY it? Cut a 50 cent piece sized aluminum plate and TIG weld it to the pump body?
Picture is really small.
So the bypass blocking basically covers the inner hole. Does it also prevent the heater from working because no coolant leaves the small stainless steel pipe that goes to the heater block? Or is the bypass block more like a 50 cent piece covering the hole? If so how can we DIY it? Cut a 50 cent piece sized aluminum plate and TIG weld it to the pump body?
#22
Melting Slicks
So if you block off the two coolant pipes on the water pump, how do you fill the system? Cause I put a loop in the system and the line coming from the over flow tank goes to the line on the water pump.
#23
Drifting
Yep covers the hole seen in picture and you could use whatever round piece works to attach and block the bypass. The water going to heater core exits the nipple behind the block off (closet to block) then returns through nipple closest to thermostat flange re-entering and mixing with the cooled water from radiator so there is still some mixing with heated water but much less. Your car will run cooler but take longer for heater to to be hot. If you don't care to use your heater you can tap and plug heater nipples. If you loop the lines the heated water will just bypass heater core and mix with cooled water thus not cooling at maximum potential but nonetheless much better than before blocking the bypass.
I will give this a shot. I have zero welding skills. Should cutting a small/thin piece of aluminum sheet with a tight fit and pressing it in work, or might there be a problem if it shifted and interfered with the thermostat?
Thermostat - Not concerned with street driving for heater, but bringing oil temp up before going onto the track.
Modded LS7, Currently running a 160 T-stat, cruising street temp is generally around 180, and 225 at the end of track TT session. Dewitt radiator. It's the 225 that I would like to drop about 30 degrees.
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Thanks for those pics. Copied the smaller ones to a landscape Word doc and blew it up.
I will give this a shot. I have zero welding skills. Should cutting a small/thin piece of aluminum sheet with a tight fit and pressing it in work, or might there be a problem if it shifted and interfered with the thermostat?
Thermostat - Not concerned with street driving for heater, but bringing oil temp up before going onto the track.
Modded LS7, Currently running a 160 T-stat, cruising street temp is generally around 180, and 225 at the end of track TT session. Dewitt radiator. It's the 225 that I would like to drop about 30 degrees.
I will give this a shot. I have zero welding skills. Should cutting a small/thin piece of aluminum sheet with a tight fit and pressing it in work, or might there be a problem if it shifted and interfered with the thermostat?
Thermostat - Not concerned with street driving for heater, but bringing oil temp up before going onto the track.
Modded LS7, Currently running a 160 T-stat, cruising street temp is generally around 180, and 225 at the end of track TT session. Dewitt radiator. It's the 225 that I would like to drop about 30 degrees.
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Any location in a pressurized system will allow the overflow/fill function to work. It expands with heat and contracts as it cools. Pressurized system raise the boiling point so as not to create vapor bubbles which will not scrub heat from cooling passages. You can connect the hose from tank at any point in system that is reachable and convenient.
#29
Melting Slicks
Look a the hose attached to the coolant over flow tank. It goes from the bottom of the over flow tank across the top of the radiator. From there it goes to the front pipe on the side of the radiator and to the heater core. The smaller hose coming from the top of the expansion tank to the radiator is for the coolant to be put back in the tank in the event of over pressure or coolant expansion. If you remove the larger hose, which is used to fill the system, and block off the ports, how will the coolant system be filled?
I'm asking because I did this mod and could not find a way to fill the system. Corvette system does not have a radiator cap, and pitting coolant in the tank will not go through the small expansion hose on the top of the tank.
I'm asking because I did this mod and could not find a way to fill the system. Corvette system does not have a radiator cap, and pitting coolant in the tank will not go through the small expansion hose on the top of the tank.
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Look a the hose attached to the coolant over flow tank. It goes from the bottom of the over flow tank across the top of the radiator. From there it goes to the front pipe on the side of the radiator and to the heater core. The smaller hose coming from the top of the expansion tank to the radiator is for the coolant to be put back in the tank in the event of over pressure or coolant expansion. If you remove the larger hose, which is used to fill the system, and block off the ports, how will the coolant system be filled?
I'm asking because I did this mod and could not find a way to fill the system. Corvette system does not have a radiator cap, and pitting coolant in the tank will not go through the small expansion hose on the top of the tank.
I'm asking because I did this mod and could not find a way to fill the system. Corvette system does not have a radiator cap, and pitting coolant in the tank will not go through the small expansion hose on the top of the tank.
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#35
Melting Slicks
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I guess you could waste less energy or WP bleed off by plugging the small hose or capping the small overflow outlet and plugging the small WP outlet. That would act like the heater core was off/closed I guess not calling for heat.
I think you need the big hose to overflow bottle unless you changed the overflow's design so you can fill and so the system can equalize and air find the highest point in the system. The smallest hose on top of the overflow looks to be just a air bleed line.
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So I think the small end covers the hole between the 2 steel pipes. The big end looks to be exactly the size of a Tstat with holes in it to display fully open. I think I can make that from delrin rod stock I have in my garage faster than I could source one from katech who does not show it on their website.
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So I think the small end covers the hole between the 2 steel pipes. The big end looks to be exactly the size of a Tstat with holes in it to display fully open. I think I can make that from delrin rod stock I have in my garage faster than I could source one from katech who does not show it on their website.
http://store.katechengines.com/therm...ctor-p369.aspx
#40
Burning Brakes
I'm thinking to try this Katech restrictor/bypass block off... so supposedly should increase cool water flow decreasing temps. I take it the tstat doesn't block the bypass as well even when fully open?
I do street drive the car, but in AZ... and could always replace with tstat in winter if needed. Basically stock ls1 and I can see 235ish ECT on the track with 160 tstat.
I do street drive the car, but in AZ... and could always replace with tstat in winter if needed. Basically stock ls1 and I can see 235ish ECT on the track with 160 tstat.