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Old 02-20-2017, 03:54 PM
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Default PCA Autocross race video. 2/19/2017.

Nothing like super fast slaloms. So much fun. Were down to one runway now. Hope you like slaloms/transitions, because that's all were going to get. It just so happens, that's my favorite element. 1st. overall.

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Nice job. Thanks for posting the vid!
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Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
Nothing like super fast slaloms. So much fun. Were down to one runway now. Hope you like slaloms/transitions, because that's all were going to get. It just so happens, that's my favorite element. 1st. overall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGRTciLFRg

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Sorry to be negative, but why bother with autox? Why not just do some real track driving instead.
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Probably the same reason lots of people autocross:

-Low time commitment (no hotels, excessive travel, etc)
-Low price point
-Lower risk of incidents (cones rarely damage cars)
-Less wear and tear on the car

HDPEs/track days can get expensive REAL quick. Entry fees can be significant. You'll go through tires, brakes, and gas at much faster rates. You're generally required to travel much longer distances to get to tracks. The risk of wrecking your car or having someone else wreck theirs into yours is a very real concern. Then there's the cost of a hotel on top of everything else.

The trade off is significantly higher seat time. Autocrosses might only be 5-6 minutes of seat time during a day. Track days are easily 3 20-minute sessions or more.

It's all in what you like. Track days are cool and all, but I only need to travel about 20 minutes to autocross locally, and only about 2 hours to a "large" event. In either case, the risk of me having a broken or wrecked car is higher during the travel to and from the event vs. during it. The local autocross only costs $20-$25 for 10 runs and the large events are about $45-$60 for 5 or 6 runs. In either case, I'm back home no later than 7pm.
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Originally Posted by kdm123
Sorry to be negative, but why bother with autox? Why not just do some real track driving instead.
You have to experience it first hand, to comprehend what all the excitement is about.
Check out this video I made. Is this real racing? Autocross vs. Willow Springs. The fastest track in the west.


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Probably the same reason lots of people autocross:

-Low time commitment (no hotels, excessive travel, etc)
-Low price point
-Lower risk of incidents (cones rarely damage cars)
-Less wear and tear on the car

HDPEs/track days can get expensive REAL quick. Entry fees can be significant. You'll go through tires, brakes, and gas at much faster rates. You're generally required to travel much longer distances to get to tracks. The risk of wrecking your car or having someone else wreck theirs into yours is a very real concern. Then there's the cost of a hotel on top of everything else.

The trade off is significantly higher seat time. Autocrosses might only be 5-6 minutes of seat time during a day. Track days are easily 3 20-minute sessions or more.

It's all in what you like. Track days are cool and all, but I only need to travel about 20 minutes to autocross locally, and only about 2 hours to a "large" event. In either case, the risk of me having a broken or wrecked car is higher during the travel to and from the event vs. during it. The local autocross only costs $20-$25 for 10 runs and the large events are about $45-$60 for 5 or 6 runs. In either case, I'm back home no later than 7pm.

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Originally Posted by kdm123
Sorry to be negative, but why bother with autox? Why not just do some real track driving instead.
The competition in AutoX is another fun factor.

Steve, what tires are you running this year?
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Autocross is my filler for between hpde days. Different fun. I do hate standing in a parking lot working which is my main gripe though. I need to pay a high school kid to work for me so I can chill and grill out on a little hibachi. Much better day.
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The competition in AutoX is another fun factor.

Steve, what tires are you running this year?
BFG's. Rival S. 315 square.
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Originally Posted by kdm123
Sorry to be negative, but why bother with autox? Why not just do some real track driving instead.
I have done autocross and it is very difficult. I also have a lot of wheel-ro-wheel racing under my belt. Autocross can pack the action of a whole race into 60 seconds.

With that said, I have run with Steve on a road course and trust me he can wheel a car there, too.

Good job Steve. You make that look easy.
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Originally Posted by spearfish25
Autocross is my filler for between hpde days. Different fun. I do hate standing in a parking lot working which is my main gripe though. I need to pay a high school kid to work for me so I can chill and grill out on a little hibachi. Much better day.
There's one autocross venue in Camarillo here in Socal where there are paid workers and that's where I've been going. The only issue there is the course is too short and not fast like the PCA events that I used to run with Steve in. If PCA start hiring course workers and charge a higher entrance fee to compensate for it (and offer those running and are willing to work the course a reduced fee), then I'll be all over it.
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Originally Posted by mountainbiker2
You have to experience it first hand, to comprehend what all the excitement is about.
Check out this video I made. Is this real racing? Autocross vs. Willow Springs. The fastest track in the west.
https://vimeo.com/10223189




Did you ever publish that video comparison steve? Do you have a link to it? Id love to share it
do you only have the cell phone of the 2 side by side

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Did you ever publish that video comparison steve? Do you have a link to it? Id love to share it
do you only have the cell phone of the 2 side by side
I don't understand. Do you see the vimeo link? That's all I have.

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