F/S 1963 Silver Blue/Blue 340hp Convert L@@K!!!
05-11-2015, 10:15 PM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
F/S 1963 Silver Blue/Blue 340hp Convert L@@K!!!
Details:
1963 VIN 115968, May build, 327/340hp, Silver Blue, dark blue interior, replacement 1964 block.
Owned for 2.5 years; did not get any substantial history on the car but it was delivered new in Florida.
Everything on this car has been touched except the paint! I wanted to do this car to a high level of correct technical and mechanical detail not worrying about the paint or driving it around. All that is left to do on this car to make it an overall high quality restoration is the paint.
YOU CAN'T BUY ANY OTHER ENTRY LEVEL CAR AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO THIS CAR WITHOUT BEING WAY OVER MY ASKING PRICE. IT IS REASONABLE!!!
Body/other:
1. The body on this car is pretty exceptional. I’ve been told this by many folks that should know what they are talking about. This original body has no damage. The only area is a very small repair on a lower corner by the rear tail light. All bonding strip lines are visible all the way around the car. I’m told this is desirable. A pro painter said he thought it has had one full re-spray and a few areas of touch up. The paint is very correct from a color and metallic size standpoint. It has a number of scratches and small door chips as well as shows some age. It’s a decent 10-footer if you will and is a very presentable user and nothing to be overly concerned about. Glad to provide additional pics.
2. I have some of the best original hubcaps you will find anywhere.
Drivetrain/frame/mechanics
1. Original rear spring was replaced with new correct Eaton unit, kept original. Ride height is perfect.
2. Original 4:11, correct dated, gear was replaced with a new 3:36 gear and a new Eaton posi unit
3. Original trailing arms were replaced with new units with all new bearings etc.
4. The supporting member that the pumpkin bolts to, that attaches to the sombrero’s was replaced.
5. One of the half shafts was replaced as well as all new u-joints everywhere.
6. Drive shaft balanced with new u-joints
7. Number 4 frame member was replaced with a new OEM unit and welded into place.
8. The rest of the frame has some rust but is serviceable and safe and has been looked at by multiple mechanic. IT IS SOLID
9. Original transmission (Muncie) with correct dates and VIN stamp was completely rebuilt and a new wide ratio gear installed to mate to the 3:36 rear end.
10. New Luk clutch was installed along with new correct 63 fork, throw out bearing and thrust bushing.
11. The engine block is an 870 correct casting block but is NOT dated correctly (DEC 64). I did a complete rebuild of the engine and found that most all the 340HP parts were correctly dated for the May build. The windage tray looked like the original lost a rod and that is why there is a replacement block. All engine parts were of good quality and documented, eagle rods, TRW pistons, crank turned .010 etc etc. Correct 609 water pump, carb, distributor (by Lars) etc etc. rebuilt Alt which is not correct but I have correct core that goes with the car. I restored the engine compartment to as close to factory as I could. New exhaust manifolds (2.5”) and all parts restored to high level of accuracy and appearance. Carb done to correct show factory condition. Used flat pistons for 10-1 CR and used stock 300HP cam and hydraulic lifters. Original balancer a restored by Damper Doctor. New fan clutch.
12. I took the liberty with adding the Borgeson power steering unit and pump. I have the original steering gear and in fine shape. Worth every cent!
13. The entire brake system has been checked and any issues were addressed. All drums in excellent shape and had been freshly turned. Pads in fine shape. Replaced rear hydraulic units and adjusted. Brand new GM correct replacement Master cylinder. Brakes function excellent. Emergency brake functions as well.
14. New aluminized exhaust system from corvette Central with the N-11 mufflers (welded). New tips and all hangers etc and new heat riser unit.
15. New correct dated Dewitt radiator $900 and all new correct hoses.
16. New set of replacement service horns
17. All new Lectric Limited wiring harnesses in the entire engine compartment.
18. New battery tray attached to frame.
19. I did take liberty with the shifter after installing a factory 63 unit. I did not like it so I put in a new 66-67 type that mounts to the frame. It functions great and I like the chrome.
20. Fuel line repaired for safety (ran new metal under body as best could with body on) and new flex brake lines
21. Completely rebuilt the heater core box and installed new core which was reinforced by a radiator shop with extra solder. All new rubber stuff from kit. Etc
22. All new Delco shocks and spring bushing kit etc.
23. All original 63 rims painted with new $1200 Michelin X Diamond Back tires with correct white wall. About 1200 miles on them. Have spare tire rim.
24. Professional 4 wheel alignment documented and the car drives fantastic with no pulling or weird feelings going on.
25. Front wheel bearings replaced and in fine shape.
Interior:
1. Professional shop did a complete gutting of the interior by removing all parts to expose birdcage (July-Dec 2014). Dash pads and middle section were re-dyed in dark blue. All new Al Knoch interior carpet (with heat mat), seat foams, seat cushions were used. Full restoration of instruments was done including odometer and trip unit (set back to zero). New tach and speedo cable. ALL NEW wire harness and fuse box!. Steering column rebuilt. Original steering wheel restored. $10,000 for this work completed in Dec 2014. ALL new correct NOS 63 correct seatbelts with restored buckles ($750 just for this).
2. Original radio works
3. Clock restored by Clockworks
4. All things function correctly.
5. All new correct replacement headlights and units function great.
6. Wipers work fine but I have not tried to fix the washer part of this.
7. Convertible top is a serviceable replacement with all new rubber. Functions great but does lose judging points because of window heat seal and does not have tag.
8. All new light bulbs. Have all the receipts for many small interior/dash items replaced.
9. Pedal box rebuilt as well and new side air vents. Many other small new parts replaced.
10. Original glove box door has a crack in it along the bottom. Otherwise decent looking
11. Doors completely rebuilt including the window vent regulators and new door pulls etc.
12. All new weather stripping around doors and up pillars etc.
There are a multitude of small things I’m not remembering but I have every receipt for all the parts and work that has been done. I realize that I will not get my money back to breakeven (or anywhere close to it) but I also don’t think I should apologize the all the work that has been done and let someone beat me up about the paint.
I’m of the mindset that there are a lot of great looking cars out there (I call the mop and glow) for which most of the things I’ve done have not been addressed. Sure they look great, but there are many issues under that shiny paint!
I’m hoping that many will recognize the work done and consider that into my asking price of $48,000
Call Don with any questions and I can address or send additional photo's of the car 405+623+1768 or email ccbarrelback@***.net
1963 VIN 115968, May build, 327/340hp, Silver Blue, dark blue interior, replacement 1964 block.
Owned for 2.5 years; did not get any substantial history on the car but it was delivered new in Florida.
Everything on this car has been touched except the paint! I wanted to do this car to a high level of correct technical and mechanical detail not worrying about the paint or driving it around. All that is left to do on this car to make it an overall high quality restoration is the paint.
YOU CAN'T BUY ANY OTHER ENTRY LEVEL CAR AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO THIS CAR WITHOUT BEING WAY OVER MY ASKING PRICE. IT IS REASONABLE!!!
Body/other:
1. The body on this car is pretty exceptional. I’ve been told this by many folks that should know what they are talking about. This original body has no damage. The only area is a very small repair on a lower corner by the rear tail light. All bonding strip lines are visible all the way around the car. I’m told this is desirable. A pro painter said he thought it has had one full re-spray and a few areas of touch up. The paint is very correct from a color and metallic size standpoint. It has a number of scratches and small door chips as well as shows some age. It’s a decent 10-footer if you will and is a very presentable user and nothing to be overly concerned about. Glad to provide additional pics.
2. I have some of the best original hubcaps you will find anywhere.
Drivetrain/frame/mechanics
1. Original rear spring was replaced with new correct Eaton unit, kept original. Ride height is perfect.
2. Original 4:11, correct dated, gear was replaced with a new 3:36 gear and a new Eaton posi unit
3. Original trailing arms were replaced with new units with all new bearings etc.
4. The supporting member that the pumpkin bolts to, that attaches to the sombrero’s was replaced.
5. One of the half shafts was replaced as well as all new u-joints everywhere.
6. Drive shaft balanced with new u-joints
7. Number 4 frame member was replaced with a new OEM unit and welded into place.
8. The rest of the frame has some rust but is serviceable and safe and has been looked at by multiple mechanic. IT IS SOLID
9. Original transmission (Muncie) with correct dates and VIN stamp was completely rebuilt and a new wide ratio gear installed to mate to the 3:36 rear end.
10. New Luk clutch was installed along with new correct 63 fork, throw out bearing and thrust bushing.
11. The engine block is an 870 correct casting block but is NOT dated correctly (DEC 64). I did a complete rebuild of the engine and found that most all the 340HP parts were correctly dated for the May build. The windage tray looked like the original lost a rod and that is why there is a replacement block. All engine parts were of good quality and documented, eagle rods, TRW pistons, crank turned .010 etc etc. Correct 609 water pump, carb, distributor (by Lars) etc etc. rebuilt Alt which is not correct but I have correct core that goes with the car. I restored the engine compartment to as close to factory as I could. New exhaust manifolds (2.5”) and all parts restored to high level of accuracy and appearance. Carb done to correct show factory condition. Used flat pistons for 10-1 CR and used stock 300HP cam and hydraulic lifters. Original balancer a restored by Damper Doctor. New fan clutch.
12. I took the liberty with adding the Borgeson power steering unit and pump. I have the original steering gear and in fine shape. Worth every cent!
13. The entire brake system has been checked and any issues were addressed. All drums in excellent shape and had been freshly turned. Pads in fine shape. Replaced rear hydraulic units and adjusted. Brand new GM correct replacement Master cylinder. Brakes function excellent. Emergency brake functions as well.
14. New aluminized exhaust system from corvette Central with the N-11 mufflers (welded). New tips and all hangers etc and new heat riser unit.
15. New correct dated Dewitt radiator $900 and all new correct hoses.
16. New set of replacement service horns
17. All new Lectric Limited wiring harnesses in the entire engine compartment.
18. New battery tray attached to frame.
19. I did take liberty with the shifter after installing a factory 63 unit. I did not like it so I put in a new 66-67 type that mounts to the frame. It functions great and I like the chrome.
20. Fuel line repaired for safety (ran new metal under body as best could with body on) and new flex brake lines
21. Completely rebuilt the heater core box and installed new core which was reinforced by a radiator shop with extra solder. All new rubber stuff from kit. Etc
22. All new Delco shocks and spring bushing kit etc.
23. All original 63 rims painted with new $1200 Michelin X Diamond Back tires with correct white wall. About 1200 miles on them. Have spare tire rim.
24. Professional 4 wheel alignment documented and the car drives fantastic with no pulling or weird feelings going on.
25. Front wheel bearings replaced and in fine shape.
Interior:
1. Professional shop did a complete gutting of the interior by removing all parts to expose birdcage (July-Dec 2014). Dash pads and middle section were re-dyed in dark blue. All new Al Knoch interior carpet (with heat mat), seat foams, seat cushions were used. Full restoration of instruments was done including odometer and trip unit (set back to zero). New tach and speedo cable. ALL NEW wire harness and fuse box!. Steering column rebuilt. Original steering wheel restored. $10,000 for this work completed in Dec 2014. ALL new correct NOS 63 correct seatbelts with restored buckles ($750 just for this).
2. Original radio works
3. Clock restored by Clockworks
4. All things function correctly.
5. All new correct replacement headlights and units function great.
6. Wipers work fine but I have not tried to fix the washer part of this.
7. Convertible top is a serviceable replacement with all new rubber. Functions great but does lose judging points because of window heat seal and does not have tag.
8. All new light bulbs. Have all the receipts for many small interior/dash items replaced.
9. Pedal box rebuilt as well and new side air vents. Many other small new parts replaced.
10. Original glove box door has a crack in it along the bottom. Otherwise decent looking
11. Doors completely rebuilt including the window vent regulators and new door pulls etc.
12. All new weather stripping around doors and up pillars etc.
There are a multitude of small things I’m not remembering but I have every receipt for all the parts and work that has been done. I realize that I will not get my money back to breakeven (or anywhere close to it) but I also don’t think I should apologize the all the work that has been done and let someone beat me up about the paint.
I’m of the mindset that there are a lot of great looking cars out there (I call the mop and glow) for which most of the things I’ve done have not been addressed. Sure they look great, but there are many issues under that shiny paint!
I’m hoping that many will recognize the work done and consider that into my asking price of $48,000
Call Don with any questions and I can address or send additional photo's of the car 405+623+1768 or email ccbarrelback@***.net
05-12-2015, 10:50 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
05-12-2015, 03:16 PM
#4
Burning Brakes
Just for clarification it looks like in a couple of the pictures that the trim tag is removed. If so why and is this the original trim tag for this car. Why is there rust around and behind the tag??
Thanks
Thanks
05-12-2015, 04:04 PM
#5
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I think that is the light of the pics playing with you. The tags are all there in all the pics.
Here is a second pic of the tags. There is surface rust because they ground the primer off to tack weld the Vin tag on. This is common.
Last edited by donbayers; 05-12-2015 at 04:14 PM.
05-12-2015, 07:16 PM
#7
Safety Car
Great looking car! Someone is going to get a well sorted out, very nice driving, great looking car for the money! GLWS! 
05-13-2015, 05:19 PM
#8
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Just putting this out there...
If someone wanted to work a deal I could deliver the car to Joplin, MO this weekend. Or I could take it as far as Springfield MO mid next week.
I happen to be traveling that way and could help out with transport in that direction.
If someone wanted to work a deal I could deliver the car to Joplin, MO this weekend. Or I could take it as far as Springfield MO mid next week.
I happen to be traveling that way and could help out with transport in that direction.
05-14-2015, 01:20 PM
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15, '19
This car has had all the bugs shaken out, and the state of the paint isn't all that bad as you can see in the pics - good enough that Don trophied at a car show with a couple hundred cars in attendance.
Anyone looking for a reliable car that can be driven without worrying about chips or breaking down, and that still makes heads swivel will love this car.
Anyone looking for a reliable car that can be driven without worrying about chips or breaking down, and that still makes heads swivel will love this car.
05-16-2015, 05:58 PM
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Safety Car
This car has had all the bugs shaken out, and the state of the paint isn't all that bad as you can see in the pics - good enough that Don trophied at a car show with a couple hundred cars in attendance.
Anyone looking for a reliable car that can be driven without worrying about chips or breaking down, and that still makes heads swivel will love this car.
Anyone looking for a reliable car that can be driven without worrying about chips or breaking down, and that still makes heads swivel will love this car.
Looks great AND you can drive it… the best of both worlds!
05-19-2015, 08:51 PM
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Burning Brakes
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05-20-2015, 10:54 AM
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Not only is this '63 of Don's a wonderful car (I've seen it in person as well) but I'd like to commend him for posting one of the better and most detailed for sale ads that I have seen in quite some time.
Ray
Ray
05-21-2015, 08:38 AM
#14
Burning Brakes
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I did my best to show what work has been done. I believe my price is reasonable and should be a very nice deal for someone.
Again, I'm only selling (and taking my losses) because I have an opportunity to purchase a local '66 coupe. (same widow who I brought my 70 LS-5 from and love it)
Waiting for the right buyer and not a bottom feeder
"bottom feeder" is defined by someone who makes a ridiculous offer, without even talking to me on the phone and asks no questions about the car, despite my already decent asking price
05-28-2015, 08:54 AM
#18
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Bump ttt
One day left on my ebay listing as well. Buy it now for 46K or best offer.
Help a guy out! My '66 purchase awaits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111677373887...84.m1555.l2649
One day left on my ebay listing as well. Buy it now for 46K or best offer.
Help a guy out! My '66 purchase awaits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111677373887...84.m1555.l2649
05-29-2015, 09:13 AM
#20
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Friday bump!
Well the saga continues. I can't be priced too high to attract the right kind of buyer. Any ideas as to what the market is doing?
Well the saga continues. I can't be priced too high to attract the right kind of buyer. Any ideas as to what the market is doing?