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Old 12-24-2005, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 427 Mitch


This is a real L88 engine stamp!

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From the PIC you posted know one could tell if it's real or not. Can you post a close up?
Old 12-24-2005, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
Here's what REAL numbers look like----
There is know way anyone could determine from the pic you posted whether it's real or memorex. The paint and rust reveals nothing about original or stamper. A better close up picture would help determine if the code is authentic and a bare deck un-painted deck is the only way to tell for sure. I can't believe the guy who posted the comment it's nice to see a real one. Same guy who would buy the clone off eBay???
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Originally Posted by Harps
Ahhhhh, the virgin engine pad....

Those look nice, and real!!!
OK gang...how about this one real stamp or memorex?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-...QQcmdZViewItem
Old 12-24-2005, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by iniguy
From the PIC you posted know one could tell if it's real or not. Can you post a close up?

real car, real engine.
Old 12-24-2005, 10:39 AM
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I would "guess" that this is the real deal. The stamping looks MUCH more authentic than that L88. It looks to be nice documented car. One question i have for you NCRS guys is what is the deal with the dates on the block vs the stamping? The block is dated Oct 10, 1966 and the block was stamped Dec 16, 1967....14 months difference?? How big of a time span can there be and still be legit?
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I just went through the auction again....it mus tjust be a typo because th car was sold in March of 67 so the stamping must be Dec 16, 1966 and they just put 67 by mistake.
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Originally Posted by iniguy
From the PIC you posted know one could tell if it's real or not. Can you post a close up?
Sorry, I do not have the car home right now. If you wish you can view more images here
L88
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967...1QQcmdZViewItem

so that's what heaven looks like.
what a beautiful car!!
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Old 12-24-2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 427 Mitch
Sorry, I do not have the car home right now. If you wish you can view more images here
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Gulp, I think I swallowed my tongue, call 911 !

I certainly want to respect you and the cars privacy. But, is the history about this car posted or shared anywhere ? I would love to hear its life story. Although, I can understand, if you want to keep it private.
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click the link he provided, some of the car's history can be found on that site
Old 12-24-2005, 04:22 PM
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[QUOTE=Grey Ghost But, is the history about this car posted or shared anywhere ? I would love to hear its life story.[/QUOTE]

Article on Mitch's car in the December issue of the Corvette Enthusiast.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...dos&forum_id=4
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along with a shot of Mitch himself piloting the car - very glamourous stuff indeed
Old 12-25-2005, 01:44 PM
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I spoke with Gar Anderson yesterday. He is one of the sons of the dealer owner. He lives here in my city and works at the local Chevy dealer where I bought my 50th AE. I have known him for many years.
He said the car is a complete fake. It was originally one of the order of Shriner's cars. All were white with blue interiors and all were small blocks. Gar even accompanied his father to the St. Louis plant when the cars were picked up in person. Gar said the documentation pictured in the listing is fake, also. He said the seller tried to get Gar and his brother to collaborate with him on trying to sell this car as original, but Gar refused. The L88 option wasn't even available until January of 1967. This car was built in October of 1966.
Old 12-25-2005, 02:08 PM
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This really sadens me to know this kind of thing goes on in our hobby,
however i think it will get a lot worse and may never get better in our
lifetime.Am i correct in this thinking?

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Originally Posted by corvett66
I spoke with Gar Anderson yesterday. He is one of the sons of the dealer owner. He lives here in my city and works at the local Chevy dealer where I bought my 50th AE. I have known him for many years.
He said the car is a complete fake. It was originally one of the order of Shriner's cars. All were white with blue interiors and all were small blocks. Gar even accompanied his father to the St. Louis plant when the cars were picked up in person. Gar said the documentation pictured in the listing is fake, also. He said the seller tried to get Gar and his brother to collaborate with him on trying to sell this car as original, but Gar refused. The L88 option wasn't even available until January of 1967. This car was built in October of 1966.
I have yet to see a real original engine stamp on this forum or eBay. It's amazing that people are such suckers. I'm also surprised that even some of the forum guys were fooled by the PICs posted on this thread.
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Originally Posted by iniguy
I have yet to see a real original engine stamp on this forum or eBay. It's amazing that people are such suckers. I'm also surprised that even some of the forum guys were fooled by the PICs posted on this thread.
I'm no expert, (or even close to being half way there.) But, I know you should see broach marks, if it hasn't been decked and restamped.
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ztheusa I suppsoe you own a real L88, if so that is cool what number is your car I mean is it the 10 or so L88 made
The IL code is for 390 horse (L36) and was used with both 4 sp and powerglide transmissions.

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There's also a bogus 67 L89 convertible somewhere, although I hope the ***** trying to sell it got caught.

In 1989 a dealer from Nebraska had a red 67 convertible with red hard top in the car coral at Bloomington alledging it was an original L89 (1 of 16 and rarer, though less valuable than a 67 L88) This guy had a bogus build sheet and a long yarn he was spinning about firsthand knowledge of the car. A friend who was there with me got interested in the car. I thought the pad looked bogus although the guy was swearing it had THE original motor and I got my friend to slow down until we got back home. A friend in law enforcement was able to trace the original MSO back to the selling dealer. The dealership had changed hands, but the son in law still worked there and he pulled the paperwork from upstairs. It was originally a 300 horse car. When confronted with the information, the dealer became enraged and told us to mind our own F'n business. He continued to advertise the car in Hemmings for up to a year after then. Initially I thought he was possibly the victim of a bad purchase himself, but later came to believe that he'd in fact pulled off the forgery.

I think it's about time that somebody buys one of these "documented" cars from one of these dealer and then files a criminal fraud charge with the Feds. Seems like about one of those is all it'd take to slow some of the crooks down.
Old 12-25-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Solidlifters
The IL code is for 390 horse (L36) and was used with both 4 sp and powerglide transmissions.
With L-36, "IL" was 4-speed only (or "IM" with K-19); Powerglides got "IQ" (or "IR" with K-19).
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Originally Posted by iniguy
I have yet to see a real original engine stamp on this forum or eBay. It's amazing that people are such suckers. I'm also surprised that even some of the forum guys were fooled by the PICs posted on this thread.
If you haven't seen an original engine stamp in this thread then you were not looking.

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