Value..1966 vs 1967
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Value..1966 vs 1967
I would like to hear opinions in regards to what the actual difference in value (if any) is between 1965,1966 and 1967 small block roadsters that are similar in condition,options and documentation?
Thank you in advance for your replies
Scott
Thank you in advance for your replies
Scott
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Originally Posted by steemin
I would like to hear opinions in regards to what the actual difference in value (if any) is between 1965,1966 and 1967 small block roadsters that are similar in condition,options and documentation?
Thank you in advance for your replies
Scott
Thank you in advance for your replies
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'67's are have more market value than '66's. Realistically, they're not worth a dime more. The '67's sell for more money because many that want/have them have wet dreams that their car or the one they want is a 427/435. Maybe the only functional improvement they made between '66 and '67 is an improved park brake handle.
The best deal on the market in mid-years is the '64.
I like '63's.
You did ask for an opinion, didn't you?
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Originally Posted by steemin
I would like to hear opinions in regards to what the actual difference in value (if any) is between 1965,1966 and 1967 small block roadsters that are similar in condition,options and documentation?
Thank you in advance for your replies
Scott
Thank you in advance for your replies
Scott
'67's are have more market value than '66's. Realistically, they're not worth a dime more. The '67's sell for more money because many that want/have them have wet dreams that their car or the one they want is a 427/435. Maybe the only functional improvement they made between '66 and '67 is an improved park brake handle.
The best deal on the market in mid-years is the '64.
I like '63's. I'm worn out hearing about '67's.
You did ask for an opinion, didn't you?
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Originally Posted by MikeM
'67's are have more market value than '66's. Realistically, they're not worth a dime more. The '67's sell for more money because many that want/have them have wet dreams that their car or the one they want is a 427/435. Maybe the only functional improvement they made between '66 and '67 is an improved park brake handle.
The best deal on the market in mid-years is the '64.
I like '63's. I'm worn out hearing about '67's.
You did ask for an opinion, didn't you?
The best deal on the market in mid-years is the '64.
I like '63's. I'm worn out hearing about '67's.
You did ask for an opinion, didn't you?
Don't for get the locking seat backs....They are nice.
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Mike M, I agree with most of what you say except the wet dream part . I bought my 67 because it was the best car I had found in over a 1 year search and the price wasn't thru the roof. Plus it was a small block, which I wanted. The best value out there is the 64 and I just missed buying a 64 roadster at the 02 NCRS Florida Regional before I bought my 67 a few months later.
Scott, the 67 model has a tank sticker or build sheet, which the earlier model years don't have,and this can help for documentation purposes. The problem is that many 67 cars have lost this piece of paper. Also there are guys out there that are reproducing this build sheet (mainly for big blocks) so you have to be knowledgeable on what is real and what is fake. The other documentation is the Protect-o-plate (POP) which is the metal plate attached to the warranty book back page and it was provided to the years you are interested in. This is very helpful but is also being reproduced/faked. Like Mike M says the 67 has more market value but it doesn't make it a better car or worth more in the eye of the owner.
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Scott, the 67 model has a tank sticker or build sheet, which the earlier model years don't have,and this can help for documentation purposes. The problem is that many 67 cars have lost this piece of paper. Also there are guys out there that are reproducing this build sheet (mainly for big blocks) so you have to be knowledgeable on what is real and what is fake. The other documentation is the Protect-o-plate (POP) which is the metal plate attached to the warranty book back page and it was provided to the years you are interested in. This is very helpful but is also being reproduced/faked. Like Mike M says the 67 has more market value but it doesn't make it a better car or worth more in the eye of the owner.
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'67 carry about a 10% - 15% premium because thay are still building 427/435 tri power cars in St Louis with documentation.........
and locking seat backs do not make up for that god awful reverse light .......
and locking seat backs do not make up for that god awful reverse light .......
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Originally Posted by Donny Brass
'67 carry about a 10% - 15% premium because thay are still building 427/435 tri power cars in St Louis with documentation....
The most expensive mid years are the '67 427/435HP cars. "All ships rise with the tide", even the small blocks.
Somebody on TV said the '67 is considered the most refined mid year, whatever that means.
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Originally Posted by Power111
Somebody on TV said the '67 is considered the most refined mid year, whatever that means.
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I think that '67s are more valuable because they are true two-seaters thanks to the well placed parking brake. '67s also carry a premium because people are so appreciative of the fact that the government had a hand in the interior styling. Having more gills in the front fenders has to be worth a few dollars more. Lastly, '67s cost more because they're newer.
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Thanks for all the responses.
The reason that I posed this question is that even though I would have no intention of selling once I find the right car I cannot help myself when it comes to factoring in appreciation and resale values.
I am sorry it is just the way that I am wired
What other differences are there between the 65,66,67?
-Locking seat backs..
-"god awful reverse light"
Isn't the 67 the first year for the dual master cylinder?
Scott
The reason that I posed this question is that even though I would have no intention of selling once I find the right car I cannot help myself when it comes to factoring in appreciation and resale values.
I am sorry it is just the way that I am wired
What other differences are there between the 65,66,67?
-Locking seat backs..
-"god awful reverse light"
Isn't the 67 the first year for the dual master cylinder?
Scott
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Originally Posted by Donny Brass
I think it means they own one
LOL.
Imagine if he owned the last '67 built.
I wonder what kind of extravegant things the owner would say on TV about the value of this car? He may not even realize he has the last Sting....wait for the pause....Ray built.
(this is a joke)
The guy that said the refined statement is that restoration Canuk on SpeedTV that we all want to punch in the mouth cause he gets to thrash million dollar Shelbys, Mopars, Ferraris, etc....and we dont get to. I hate that guy. That job should be mine!
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1. Most people prefer the styling of the 67. It's less adorned with emblems and scripts and has a very clean apearance (compared with the 66). The 5 louver design with the blackout rocker molding gives the appearance of a lower to the ground appearance. (i'm not making this up - I have some designer friends within GM who have worked me over )
2. There are some minor functional differences. The wheels are generally better with the 67. Base wheels are wider by 1/2 inch (6" versus 5 1/2 ') which will give marginally better handling. And the look of the rally wheel is better (in my opinion) than the 65 or 66 base wheels (which don't know if they want to be mag wheels or knock offs when they grow up). As the the optional wheels, while both the knockoffs and bold-ons look great (although I prefer the chrome cones of the 65 to the brushed cones of the 66), the knock-offs actually are a weight penalty compared with the base wheels unlike the bolt-ons.
3. Each mid-year's seats were different (and improved) over the prior year. GM had problems with the stitching that seemed to be resolved by 67.
Overall these differences are really minor. From a stying point of view, people tend to group the 63 and 64s together (though the split for the 63 coupe is an entity all its own). And people group the 65 and 66 together. Because of the relative uniqueness of the 67 (and those characterists being considered positive), and because people tend to buy (or at least want) the version that is "rated" the best, the money will chase that vehicle - ergo high cost 67s. But they're all great cars.
2. There are some minor functional differences. The wheels are generally better with the 67. Base wheels are wider by 1/2 inch (6" versus 5 1/2 ') which will give marginally better handling. And the look of the rally wheel is better (in my opinion) than the 65 or 66 base wheels (which don't know if they want to be mag wheels or knock offs when they grow up). As the the optional wheels, while both the knockoffs and bold-ons look great (although I prefer the chrome cones of the 65 to the brushed cones of the 66), the knock-offs actually are a weight penalty compared with the base wheels unlike the bolt-ons.
3. Each mid-year's seats were different (and improved) over the prior year. GM had problems with the stitching that seemed to be resolved by 67.
Overall these differences are really minor. From a stying point of view, people tend to group the 63 and 64s together (though the split for the 63 coupe is an entity all its own). And people group the 65 and 66 together. Because of the relative uniqueness of the 67 (and those characterists being considered positive), and because people tend to buy (or at least want) the version that is "rated" the best, the money will chase that vehicle - ergo high cost 67s. But they're all great cars.
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Originally Posted by steemin
What other differences are there between the 65,66,67?
-Locking seat backs..
-"god awful reverse light"
Isn't the 67 the first year for the dual master cylinder?
Scott
-Locking seat backs..
-"god awful reverse light"
Isn't the 67 the first year for the dual master cylinder?
Scott
The late '65, '66 and '67 are the same car with few exceptions
the '65 had the rounded script 'Corvette' emblems
the '67 had a painted gas cap
the '67 had the aforementioned "I will not sit in the middle" parking brake handle
the '65 had the multi piece grill
the '66 had the 'you ordered how many of those emblems?' hood emblem
the '67 had the 'wanna really see the guys at Pontiac and Olds turn purple" GM mandated exclusive tri-power set-up
the '67 did not get the cross flags on the fender sides
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67's bring more money than comparable 65-66's, but I prefer the 65-66's for myself.
On 65-66, I like the teak option, goldlines, KO's, sometimes like hubcaps, fender and hood emblems(66), 3 vertical fender louvers, gas lid, dash *****, power antenna, inboard backup lamps, non-locking seat backs, the "power buldge" bigblock hood, and able to run the painted year of manufacture license tags (NC). I'm looking to buy the right midyear now and would take a nice 67, but would prefer a 65-66 first. Just my opinion.
Nothing wrong with and not much difference between 65-66-67 to really matter.
On 65-66, I like the teak option, goldlines, KO's, sometimes like hubcaps, fender and hood emblems(66), 3 vertical fender louvers, gas lid, dash *****, power antenna, inboard backup lamps, non-locking seat backs, the "power buldge" bigblock hood, and able to run the painted year of manufacture license tags (NC). I'm looking to buy the right midyear now and would take a nice 67, but would prefer a 65-66 first. Just my opinion.
Nothing wrong with and not much difference between 65-66-67 to really matter.
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When I was looking to buy a mid year coupe I didn't think I would find a 67 in my price range. I was actually looking for a 65 or a 66. Came across a "smokin" deal on a 67, big block, driver, and am very happy. Now comes the fun part, driv'in it & fixing it up!!!
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It all depends on what U want...
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Originally Posted by panchop
For those of us in arizona the difference is a 67 has to go thru emissions testing. A 66/ 65 dosen't
I have an office in Tucson. I am considering spending my winters in AZ upon retirement. So it is possible that the car may end up there some day. Something to consider..Thanks!
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Originally Posted by bb62
1. Most people prefer the styling of the 67. It's less adorned with emblems and scripts and has a very clean apearance (compared with the 66). The 5 louver design with the blackout rocker molding gives the appearance of a lower to the ground appearance. (i'm not making this up - I have some designer friends within GM who have worked me over )
2. There are some minor functional differences. The wheels are generally better with the 67. Base wheels are wider by 1/2 inch (6" versus 5 1/2 ') which will give marginally better handling. And the look of the rally wheel is better (in my opinion) than the 65 or 66 base wheels (which don't know if they want to be mag wheels or knock offs when they grow up). As the the optional wheels, while both the knockoffs and bold-ons look great (although I prefer the chrome cones of the 65 to the brushed cones of the 66), the knock-offs actually are a weight penalty compared with the base wheels unlike the bolt-ons.
3. Each mid-year's seats were different (and improved) over the prior year. GM had problems with the stitching that seemed to be resolved by 67.
Overall these differences are really minor. From a stying point of view, people tend to group the 63 and 64s together (though the split for the 63 coupe is an entity all its own). And people group the 65 and 66 together. Because of the relative uniqueness of the 67 (and those characterists being considered positive), and because people tend to buy (or at least want) the version that is "rated" the best, the money will chase that vehicle - ergo high cost 67s. But they're all great cars.
2. There are some minor functional differences. The wheels are generally better with the 67. Base wheels are wider by 1/2 inch (6" versus 5 1/2 ') which will give marginally better handling. And the look of the rally wheel is better (in my opinion) than the 65 or 66 base wheels (which don't know if they want to be mag wheels or knock offs when they grow up). As the the optional wheels, while both the knockoffs and bold-ons look great (although I prefer the chrome cones of the 65 to the brushed cones of the 66), the knock-offs actually are a weight penalty compared with the base wheels unlike the bolt-ons.
3. Each mid-year's seats were different (and improved) over the prior year. GM had problems with the stitching that seemed to be resolved by 67.
Overall these differences are really minor. From a stying point of view, people tend to group the 63 and 64s together (though the split for the 63 coupe is an entity all its own). And people group the 65 and 66 together. Because of the relative uniqueness of the 67 (and those characterists being considered positive), and because people tend to buy (or at least want) the version that is "rated" the best, the money will chase that vehicle - ergo high cost 67s. But they're all great cars.
That said the '65 (after the intro of the '63's) is the most innovative mid-year. Strange enough is some of those innovations were dropped by the time the '67 model came out.
The '65's had the following:
1) last year for fuel injection (Zora declared this year/option the best all round vette)
2) first year 4 wheel disk brakes
3) first year big block
4) first year functional fender gills (and most sharklike)
5) first year molded inside door panels and new seats
6) first year dual master cylinder
7) first year side pipes
8) first year "rockcrusher" 4-speed
9) first year telescopic column (nicest ever & style shared with 66 only)
10) first year teakwood wheel (dropped in 67)
11) functional big block hood shared w/66(67 not functional except L88)
12) last year for SB Hi-Po 2.5" exhaust manifolds
13) last year for solid lifter SB's
14) nicest grill (IMO) one year only
15) first year for flat face gauges
16) last year for functional power roof vents (coupes only)
17) first year power antenna (shared w/66, dropped in '67)