firstgear

Found this on Ebay and have a twitchy bidding finger for it....what is right and what is wrong? Good deal or shy away? Anyone know this car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270120262158













there are more photos on EBay....let me know what you think....

Herb

Stingray1967

Love the color, but I'm a little biased.

Also, I didn't think that 63s you could get side pipes.

http://www.idavette.net/facts/63.htm

63driver

Incorrect for a 63 -> Sidepipes, knock-off wheels, the female side of the hood latch should not have black paint on it.

Wrong -> Master Cylinder not 63, Four Speed linkage looks like 64 to 67.

Missing -> Radio side panel, Radio shielding on engine

Information needed -> What is the VIN derivative stamped on the engine pad and transmission?

The VIN tag looks like it is attached correctly as does the Trim Tag.

Not a bad car, I would hire some to crawl all over this to ensure it is a real Fuel Car.

I do not have a fuel car so I can't comment of the FI unit numbers

Harry

wmf62

he mentioned the "B-J" word, so he has a pretty good idea of what it's worth; it's gonna be expensive...
Bill

firstgear

i asked about the stamp pad.....after a while I can't remember what each one has stamped on it! so we'll see what comes back.....

Stingray1967

Hey Firstgear, this car is local for me. The guy I'm working with for my total nut and bolt off resto on my 67 is AMAZING. He's an NCRS Level 1 judge for 67. He specializes in 63-67 restoration, and has been doing it for years.

If you want, I can have Bob check this car THOROUGHLY for you. HIGHLY recommended.

PM me if you're interested. Bob was at my place this week and we pop riveted new #4 body mount brackets on my car.

Trophy Blue

The hood is not shimmed correctly and the passenger side headlight bucket is not aligned properly.

SolidAxle

Herb,

You've got to see it in person w/ someone who knows '63's. There are way too many expensive parts on '63's to buy from pictures. Here are some shots of my original unrestored SWC and my roadster.

http://ckautollc.photosite.com/63SplitWindowCoupe/

http://ckautollc.photosite.com/CarCo...leTanCorvette/

Noland's Vol.2 will help you as well. SWC's are very hot right now.

firstgear

chuck....I think I am a glutton for punishment.....

MikeM

You guys amaze me. Pickin' and pokin' at the wrong this, wrong that, not a '63 option. You look at the pissantes and let the elephants stampede right over you.

What about the poor front end fits of the headlight doors, hood and fender? That thing looks like it been glued back together by Ray Charles. Go find a good one.

firstgear

decided to pass on the car for the following reasons.....

1963 Red/Black SWC from Minnesota
Inspected by Bob Lund – 5/20/07

Things that are correct
 Frame has surface rust only, appears pretty solid
 Birdcage is pretty good, slight surface rust only
 Good door fit
 Good headlight fit
 Hood fit pretty good
 Appears to have original brake lines
 New shocks installed
 Correct radio, but missing slider “bump” to switch between FM and AM
 Correct casting number on block
 Correct fuelie distributor
 Correct steel S-tube for fuelie air intake
 Correct 63 glove box door, slight crack
 Optioned with Power Windows
 Rear window trim all in place
 Original rubber around vent windows
 Original tail panel fiberglass section
 Original dash pads
 Good headliner, but missing lens for interior dome light

Things that are not correct, but in good condition
 First body tab cut to install sidepipes
 Sidepipes
 Knock off wheels, they are reproductions
 Wrong harmonic balancer (not the correct finned type for 63)
 Replacement hood, not original
 Someone undercoated the car at one point
 Wrong master cylinder for 63
 Hood hinges were shimmed to make the hood fit
 Wrong voltage regulator
 Wrong horn relay
 Wrong alternator, also missing fan
 Wrong gas line
 Wrong valve covers (the ones installed have the famous casting flaw down the center of the “O” in Corvette, should be for late 66 and 67 only)
 Wrong ballast resistor (part of ignition system, screwed to firewall
 Weird fiberglass-like pieces glued or glassed onto the back side of the fender louvers
 There are lock nuts on the back of the fender emblems (fuel injection)
 Generic Corvette aluminum radiator, not correct for 63, but it works
 Wrong screws on S-tube for fuelie air intake
 1964 shifter
 Wrong rear differential housing, couldn’t (obviously) verify gears
 Wrong radiator core support, this car has a 64 version
 Wrong passenger side exhaust manifold, it is for a 365 horse car
 Wrong radiator surge tank


Things that need fixing
 Fiberglass patch in right front fender well, car has been hit most likely
 Hand laid fiberglass in both rear wheel wells, we are speculating that the car had fender flares at one point
 Paint is not show quality, but a good 10 footer
 Driver side end cap of frame (near kickups) is rusted, has a slight hole, drain holes plugged
 Oil leak from engine
 Missing 1 horn
 Seat covers and center console are in tough shape, they’re passable, but not very appealing to the eye
 Cracked steering wheel
 Loose steering wheel as it sits on the column
 Loose driver’s door arm rest
 Pinched heater hose (just installed wrong)
 No needle on temp gauge
 Cluster was refurbished probably back in the 80s, with the wrong font of numbers for the odometer and trip odometer; correct ones now available
o Also, the red line looks a little “too good”, could probably have been a repaint; in other words, the cluster could have originally had a low red line, indicating that it was a small HP car, that had been converted to a fuelie
 Car has been hit in RF corner
 Unplugged parking light
 Missing passenger side radio cover panel
 Missing one “coupe corner”, that is a small metal piece right behind the passenger seat on the wall of the car that “crimps” the inner and outer trim pieces together (small part)
 Slight fuse box rust, needs new wiring harness
 No spare tire carrier
 Tail wiring harness has been spliced, probably needs to be replaced
 Needs new rear leaf spring
 Hole in body for antenna has been filled in
 Dent on passenger side vent window trim
 Missing radio shielding
 Missing ignition switch bezel
 Dead battery

jntdysf

Appears to be a very thorough assesmment by Mr. Lund. A great example of why an inpsection by an expert is essential.

Stingray1967

Yep, Bob and I had fun inspecting it though.

You gotta love it, when the guy who knows his stuff, sits in the driver's seat of the SWC, and the first words out of his mouth were "Well, the font on the numerals for the odometer and trip odometer are wrong."



Can you say "detailed knowledge"?

I am continually stunned by Bob's knowledge. I count my lucky stars that he's working on my 67. NCRS Top Flight, here I come.

mattyg92

Seaside63

i want to check my dampner bracket; what do you have to check to see if it is a fuelie car?

Stingray1967

Seaside,
When Bob and I were there looking at the car, he said that a buzzer tach was installed on 63 fuelies (probably 64s and 65s too). Do you know if ALL fuelies had buzzer tachs?

Bob is currently doing a total frame off restoration on an original black/black 63 SWC fuelie (with the original motor). That car has a buzzer tach, this red car does not.

Injected Stingray

Well sold for $51,000 the owner seemed very up front with the info to, nice to see that. Seaside I never herd about the dampner bracket before kudos to you.

mattyg92

when i finally hooked up my tach; it had the wrong distributor in it; the cable was bad so when i would drive it would bounce like crazy, i would hear this buzz sound, thats how i found out it was a buzzer tach

philip964

Another great thread. Thanks for all the great reasons I will never be able to sell my car.

Stingray1967

Happy we could oblige!