Its Back.... Shriner COPO with L-88...
01-18-2009, 02:25 PM
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Yup, I had to go to my Microsoft Bookshelf to brush up on that definition!
I can see it now...
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Oops, I think I'm being a tad obsequious!
01-18-2009, 05:59 PM
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and here's that once-a-base-shriner-car then used-as-a-platform-to-fake-an-L88 car, then caught red-handed, then passed off as who knows what at BJ, this shot taken in the staging area, just before the car went accross (I tried to discreetly speak the truth to the would be bidders milling around the car, but it seems some folks wanted to have a 67 that was once a shriner's car, now with an L88 engine installed for whatever reason:
01-18-2009, 10:42 PM
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and here's that once-a-base-shriner-car then used-as-a-platform-to-fake-an-L88 car, then caught red-handed, then passed off as who knows what at BJ, this shot taken in the staging area, just before the car went accross (I tried to discreetly speak the truth to the would be bidders milling around the car, but it seems some folks wanted to have a 67 that was once a shriner's car, now with an L88 engine installed for whatever reason:
01-19-2009, 06:53 AM
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Except it was not the Sox car, but the Ramchargers Parts store 70s Cuda. It too had some possible misleading information. It was claimed to be the "Original" Ramchargers car. By 1970 all the original Ramchargers were either back to their old jobs at Chryslers or Elton Eckstran to his Law office. The Michigan Judge who purchased the car from the Ramchargers auto parts store thought he was going to make a killing at BJ`s. I understand he did clear close to 40K and I think made up with BJ`s.
original Ramchargers car... Several of the original Ramchargers were
there at the sale.. on stage.... I doubt they would've be there if the car's lineage was suspect.
BJ screwed the pooch on the sale... I think everyone was waiting
for the Big Boys to start coming out with the really big bids.. this
is what I think caused a lul in the bidding..
The bidding stalled just a tad.. and BOOM, the gavel dropped quick..
everyone was stunned...
There was ZERO crowd working by BJ when the bidding slowed...
not a word from Craig, Steve, or Spanky... they spent more time
working some very plain.. non historic boring restomods than they
did the Ramchargers car... the Judge was right to protest.. he got
short gaveled.
01-19-2009, 04:59 PM
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The '65 Shrine cars were blue with white interiors, the '66's were yellow with black . They were all sold through my family's dealership in Wahoo NE. I was disappointed with the price on the '67, I feel it brought too much money. Fake L88, interior color change, ect. Was the price because the Shrine connection, the L88 or the supposed COPO?
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01-19-2009, 05:20 PM
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The '65 Shrine cars were blue with white interiors, the '66's were yellow with black . They were all sold through my family's dealership in Wahoo NE. I was disappointed with the price on the '67, I feel it brought too much money. Fake L88, interior color change, ect. Was the price because the Shrine connection, the L88 or the supposed COPO?
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I just wonder, how much would a well done 67 L88 "tribute" car bring? Although corvette folks haven't really supported the tribute car thing, I wonder what a well-done 67 L88 tribute car would fetch - I think the time is right.
01-19-2009, 05:37 PM
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I guess that is the most accurate way to view it - but it wasn't dressed out as a proper 67 BB with the L88 option either, so the buyer didn't get a very good tribute car. It did sound like the business when it was running though.
BTW, the full price paid for this car on Saturday was $176,000 (includes the 10% commission)
BTW, the full price paid for this car on Saturday was $176,000 (includes the 10% commission)
01-19-2009, 08:05 PM
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I drove that car for probably 2,000 miles when it was new since it was my dads Shrine car. As we all know it was white with blue interior but it was a 350HP car not a 300 and it did have a factory radio so there was nothing COPO about that car. I thought it kinda funny that they were saying it was documented as a COPO Shrine car since I have all the real info there is and I didn't give it to the seller. About 1/2 of the cars every year did not have radios but did have the radio shielding. Later in 69 and 70 we got in small block cars with big block hoods I have the invoices for those cars. Anybody have questions about Shrine cars I have some records and know about all of them from the white 57s thru the 81s with invoices for 68 up and serial numbers and owner info for 65 up. GL Anderson.
01-19-2009, 09:13 PM
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I drove that car for probably 2,000 miles when it was new since it was my dads Shrine car. As we all know it was white with blue interior but it was a 350HP car not a 300 and it did have a factory radio so there was nothing COPO about that car. I thought it kinda funny that they were saying it was documented as a COPO Shrine car since I have all the real info there is and I didn't give it to the seller. About 1/2 of the cars every year did not have radios but did have the radio shielding. Later in 69 and 70 we got in small block cars with big block hoods I have the invoices for those cars. Anybody have questions about Shrine cars I have some records and know about all of them from the white 57s thru the 81s with invoices for 68 up and serial numbers and owner info for 65 up. GL Anderson.
01-19-2009, 09:20 PM
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No I didn't have any reason to do so since I was not buying the car. I suppose since he tried to bribe me to back up his fairy tale..... or if being a dumb *** was illegal maybe then I could have. At anyrate this should put an end to this mess unless the buyer wants to talk about his purchase. GL
01-19-2009, 09:45 PM
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No I didn't have any reason to do so since I was not buying the car. I suppose since he tried to bribe me to back up his fairy tale..... or if being a dumb *** was illegal maybe then I could have. At anyrate this should put an end to this mess unless the buyer wants to talk about his purchase. GL
01-19-2009, 10:45 PM
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Were they all COPO cars? Well maybe not in the true sense. There were many years we would have a meeting with Joe Pike and after dinner sitdown and give him the info as to color and interior plus which member wanted what engine and radio or no radio but all had the shielding. Then there were years where we sent the orders in the normal way with a note as to any special items like big block hoods on the small block cars. We would also order extra cars like the Shrine cars as sold orders and or stock but they would be picked up at the factory or delivered by truck. We would also order cars for regular Corvette customers to be picked up or delivered with the Shrine cars but not in the color or equipment ordered by the Shriners. I have paperwork on a 435hp Yellow car picked up by a customer from Texas at the same time the Riverside Gold 69s were picked up for the Shriners. He brought his hot GF along for the plant tour and work just stopped while she was waking thru the plant! We had some pretty good contacts with Chevrolet including Pete Estes so pretty much got whatever we wanted. They even called and wanted us to take 2 really expensive Camaros in 1969 seems they had all aluminum 427s in them and cost about twice what a normal Camaro cost. I tried to pre sell them but couldn't and had to call them back and decline. Seems pretty stupid now but I had to do it. GL
01-19-2009, 11:34 PM
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My non-radio car came with shielding. I think the FCC required it on all 'Vettes because the RF interference would go right through the 'glass fenders and make other drivers' radios buzz.
01-20-2009, 06:40 AM
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I don't think that is a fact. I have orders where we actually ordered shielding with no radio and they have a number for that option plus a price for the shielding on the invoice so if it was "standard" as you may think then it would not show up that way just as any standard part on the cars.