Window question
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Window question
I'm still trying to get my windows squared away. Most of the hardware has been replaced. I need what I think should be called a window frame( 63 conv). A previous owner had the passenger window out of the frame for some reason and when it was re-installed, the frame was not attached to the window correctly. It's off by about 1/8 of an inch. Because of this ,the window won't crank properly. When the window gets to the top of the channel, it binds against the vent frame. I am referring to the metal piece that the window sits in. I've looked on every suppliers website and can't find it.I've tried adjusting the vent frame, but there doesn't seem to be a way to make it work. If I can find a new frame and mount it correctly, I should be OK. I'm hoping that someone might know the correct name and where I can purchase it.
#4
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I was at a local "window shop" this morning. He told me that it would be very difficult to remove the window from the bracket without doing serious damage to the bracket.I'll try LIC on Monday. Any other replies welcomed.
#5
Drifting
Do you need to replace the frame since it is wrong or are you wanting to get a new frame since you think you'll damage your current correct one?
You should be able to remove the glass without hurting the frame. Slide a razor blade on both sides then pull the glass out.
You should be able to remove the glass without hurting the frame. Slide a razor blade on both sides then pull the glass out.
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The "trade name" for that part is "sash channel". Mark the glass and the channel with the current fore-aft location of the glass, cut the seal currently holding the glass in the channel and remove the glass, clean the channel, and re-install the glass in the correct location in the channel with "glass setting tape" (available at any auto glass shop).
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
In addition to being improperly installed, the old channell has a slight "bow" in it. I'll try removing it, but eliminating the bow might cause more damage.
#9
Drifting
The sash channel, by design, had a bow in it to fit the curve of the glass.
If you have a picture then it may be more clear what your issue may be or hopefully not be.
If you have a picture then it may be more clear what your issue may be or hopefully not be.
#11
Drifting
Since the glass fits into the slash channel within 2 thickness of the glass tape it is hard to image the bow bend is off (unless the glass won't sit properly in the channel).
Is the glass fully seated in the sash channel? If yes, then you should be able to reuse it. If not, then I'd try to still remove the glass (run a flat razor blade on both sides) and try to repair/rebend the sash channel slightly.
I had the same problem with my front channel and fixed the damaged bend with a torch and carfull persuasion.
Is the glass fully seated in the sash channel? If yes, then you should be able to reuse it. If not, then I'd try to still remove the glass (run a flat razor blade on both sides) and try to repair/rebend the sash channel slightly.
I had the same problem with my front channel and fixed the damaged bend with a torch and carfull persuasion.
#12
Le Mans Master
Ren, lucky for you my doors are all apart now. I just checked my window frames in the coupe and they are not supposed to be completely straight where the glass fits in. If you look at the glass, it must follow it's slightly concave shape to fit properly. If your glass is set in the wrong position, it will make the sash appear bent. I agree with the other guys, use a small thin blade and carefully remove the glass from the sash, clean out the channel and get the correct setting tape and put em back in. When I did mine, bubba had used a big blob of silicone to hold the glass in no tape at all . Got the correct sash tape from CC and it all went back together very nicely. Pilot Dan
#13
Drifting
Since you mentioned the glass of off by 1/8" causing your binding thought I'd mention what I believe is the correct way to locate the glass position that worked for me.
The sash channel window runner, that rides inside the rear guide, can be used as the guide for the glass placement. Use a straight edge along the winder sash runner and align the glass forward by ~1/8".
When the window is up the widest part is positioned between the unadjustable rear guide's top and the front vent window assembly frame guide. That location is the pivot point from which adjustments of the vent window assembly can be made via the bottom screw accessible through the inner door panel.
The sash channel window runner, that rides inside the rear guide, can be used as the guide for the glass placement. Use a straight edge along the winder sash runner and align the glass forward by ~1/8".
When the window is up the widest part is positioned between the unadjustable rear guide's top and the front vent window assembly frame guide. That location is the pivot point from which adjustments of the vent window assembly can be made via the bottom screw accessible through the inner door panel.