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Old 02-19-2010, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default 1958 Silver Blue Paint

Does anyone know if the NCRS has a "standard" for the 1958 Corvette Silver Blue? If they have determined that "XXXX" formula number of whoevers paint brand is acceptable as correct in color?

I can see that through my research into this (and without having been able to look at an original or very very old restoration of a 58 Corvette in this color) that the PPG acrylic laquer formula #2431 (last revised in 1998) is close but not quite there.

If that is so ( and after looking at a 58 Vette that was done in acrylic laquer in the early 80's ) I have been able to determine that R-M Diamont has a Color Max #4388 in base coat that is in the right color direction (bluer) and possibly amount of blue than the PPG formula in acrylic laquer. I do not know about the "metallic" look yet until I get this sprayed out.

I have a sample of one DuPont Chroma Base formula, a Deltron formula and 3 other R-M 1958 Corvette specific color formulas that actually stink. They are no good. And when you look at cars for sale or images of other owners cars on the net you will see that they all vary from each other and quite substantially in some cases.

I am building a car right now and using this color on it. Trying to get more info so I can get the color as accurate as possible. Anyone else out there doing or done what I am in the middle of?
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:29 PM   #2
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This is only a suggestion. There are many Corvette enthusiasts over a the other site, NCRS that have the correct recipe and not only can they direct you, but can also give you some extremely good advise. If you want it right, they are the ones to take you there. Of course you need to join to benefit this. Also great bunch of guy's too...

http://www.ncrs.org/

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Old 02-19-2010, 12:48 PM   #3
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I had my 58 vette painted in 1989.( Silver Blue) The paint is as follows...PPG Deltron Acrylic Urethane DAU3229 1980 GM EXT.Azure Blue Poly Code: 90 .With a clear coat. Don't know if it is accepted by NCRS. WE matched it to the color on the guage housing and looks the same as factory.After 21 years I still get compliments on it. Look at my avatar. Bill58.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:55 PM   #4
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The PPG Marlin blue looks pretty good to me.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:12 PM   #5
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And when you look at cars for sale or images of other owners cars on the net you will see that they all vary from each other and quite substantially in some cases.

I am building a car right now and using this color on it. Trying to get more info so I can get the color as accurate as possible. Anyone else out there doing or done what I am in the middle of?

I don't think you're going to be very successful comparing colors of cars on the net. Colors will vary from computer to computer unless you're using a pretty good monitoring system that has been color corrected, something not widely available to most of us. Colors will likely look quite different in person than from that shown in an internet photo.

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:31 PM   #6
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Thanks Bill58. I appreciate the info. I'll check it out.
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:28 PM   #7
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The first NCRS 53-72 Corvette Specifications Guide, printed in 1989, lists the following paint codes for 58 Silver Blue.

DuPont 2703-L
R&M 58V11
Ditzler DDL31742

I don't know if any of these codes are still valid, and the NCRS stopped including the paint codes in later editions of the Guide. That might give you a starting point, though.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:36 PM   #8
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My Chevrolet Dupont paint chip book Sept 9, 1960 states: 1958 Corvette Silver Blue Metallic Lucite #2696-L & Dulux #181-27235 Comb # 930-A The lower section of sheet 3 states Silver Blue Metallic Comb # 502-A, 514-B it doesn't state what these numbers represent.

So it looks like the factory numbers have changed some over the years, many suppliers have a cross reference paint to the old numbers.
Hope this helps.

I also have other factory numbers 57 to 63 if anyone's interested, and recipes for 60 to 69 all makes and models.

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Old 02-20-2010, 11:26 AM   #9
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to check these numbers you gave here and see if they cross to something. The 502A and 514B are the factory paint codes. Lucite is the old laquer paint and Dulux is the old alkyd (straight) enamel.
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:22 PM   #10
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check with Hibernia Restorations in Hibernia, NJ. They can mix the paint in whatever format you want. Will probably have to mess with whatever color anyone makes up for you. Unless someone has a good version and gives you the weight/volume formula for any given brand and format...which is probably what you meant to ask for.

Should be a collection of formulas kept in the sticky section just on paint formulas.

Very frustrating and costly to chase down a good version of just about any color. Thank Barry and Linda for their version of milano maroon. We need to amass a database.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:17 PM   #11
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My factory color was Silver Blue but I went with my favorite color,,,,, Black! Saved me a lot of time and I love it !!!!! I even love my Coffee Black!
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That would be an easy solution for sure!
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I could mix about anything I need to to find what is accepted as a "standard" is the thing I was looking for. I'll go back to the NCRS site and see what comes of it there. Thought maybe somebody would see this that had done it before. Appreciate all the feedback!
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