Mike Ward

I see what you mean.

Bud2

It's tough, no doubt about it. Going by many opinions here, too harsh. But hey it's not the end of the world. Get someone to relay the facts onto the NCRS board on your behalf, serve the time and then get on with life. It's not that important that it should eat at you. The NCRS loses out and we gain.

In my opinion, friends are too hard to come by, when the time comes by to re-join them, do so, have a laugh with them about the whole thing and enjoy the future events with them.

Life is way too short!

Bud.

Larry P

You can call it at fairy tail if you like, but,
when you spend seven years building a car and go to the place you expect to be recognized and you are ignored,
it's a nightmare, not a fairytail!
You don't understand, and that's the problem.
Larry

LT1driver

Roy, sounds excessive to me, hope you stay the course and remain a member so others can benefit from your knowledge, whatever you do good luck and thanks for supporting the corvette world for so long. I was a member in the 70s, quit during college, rejoined in 90s I think and love the magazine, but dislike the small percentage of jerks who make other non ncrs vette owners not want to join with comments on someones non perfect, non numbers matching car etc. I for one like any and all vettes even if not to my taste, that is what life is about. anyhow best of luck and thanks again and thanks for hanging around this forum.
to clarrify, 99%+ ncrs members I have met are tops, always a bad egg in any club or in society
thanks again Roy for the story and you are a big man for saying you were wrong, many wouldn't. Hope ncrs see fit to lighten your suspension a bit. Our corvette hobby is the best

1955 copper

WOW! I dint mean to start arguments between people ,but I'll try to make this clear

1 About Utah National we were given the OK to use our 55 to go out for dinners.
2 About Ca. National in San Jose we left when sportsman class left and never went to their dinner, we were in sportsman class.
3 About Bend I left before 5pm, there were about 6 people on the field talking cars , but I was wrong leaving before 5PM

Yes I broke the rules at Bend ( I new that) I said that , I dint say anything bad about NCRS or the people then or now.It wasn't a danger to anyone on the field when I drove off. I have no problem if some people think other wise or say I got what I deserved.
What more can I say or do ? I'm not looking for or asking for sympathy .Cant say it much clearer then that ,I was just surprised that I was also taken off their forum (that's it). I WAS WRONG OK lets end this now .

Sxrxrnr

Geez, I don't have orange paint overspray on my intake manifold (among a few other mortal sins), if someone from NCRS finds out, am I likely subject to stoning or waterboarding plus getting banned for life? Now I won't be able to sleep tonite. 25 or more year member that I am. Give us a break already!

Mike Terry

I WASthinking of joining NCRS but if they are that picky I don't think they are for me. I feel it is my car, I own it and I will drive it when and where I want. I have been to and seen several NCRS JUDGING EVENTS and the NCRS judges think they are GODS. I would bet that if they did not have a book in there hand when loking at a car then would not have a clue what is original and what is not. If they wanted to get that picky then there is not ONE Corvette out on the road or in a garage that is NCRS TOP FLIGHT. The battery, oil and filter has been changed and I am sure that the tires have been replaced also. So it did not come from the Corvette Plant like that so it is BS

Randy G.

NCRS bashing again? Hmmm.

It's not a car club. If you need to be stroked go to the local massage parlor.

I for one am glad to be a member. If it wasn't for this watch dog group there would be a million "original" mid year big block rare black with red stinger fully loaded Vettes floating around. If originality is your passion then join up. If you don't give a rats *** about originality then stay away. But don't come on here and unload on them just because you don't want overspray or certain head bolt markings or whatever. I find the people who bash the NCRS and say they are too **** are the same ones who don't want to put the time or effort into their cars to make them "correct." That's fine if they don't want to do it. Just don't ask the NCRS to dumb down the criteria so your car might get a few more points for being wrong.

Rules are rules and Roy left. He knew the rules on the way out. Just because what's her name gets away with just a few days in jail and a couple weeks in rehab for good behaviour doesn't mean Roy should have his time card doctored, too. However, I will offer to split his penalty and take 7.5 months of his jail time in exchange for information when I need it.

RG

emccomas

I have to admit that I was not aware that getting a 13 month suspension for violating the "do not leave before 5 rule" also meant that you were suspended from posting on the NCRS Discussion Board.

That just seems odd to me.

So, what happens when those new 55 owners ask questions on the DB. Do we tell them to wait 13 months until Roy can get back to them.

I understand the suspension from NCRS events, and I agree with it. I just don't get the suspension from the DB part of it.

Wouldn't be the first time I didn't fully understand what was going on.

And just to set the record straight, I am a long time member, and a supporter of NCRS.

Seems like a little better communication and maybe a bit of flexibility would take care of this whole situation.

SledgeHammer 2.0

15 Month suspension, not even allowed to post on the forum.........Man and my kids tell me I am a hardarse. I don't care what any of you NCRS guys say, that's a little to overboard. You are running off a valuable asset

Sam Kalmuk

I guess they missed the Boat on this one...who else knows more about the '53-'55 Vettes than Roy. Bet you can't name one .....

emccomas

Just a point of clarification, I believe the NCRS rule is a 13 month suspension, not a 15 month suspension.

The point, as I understand it, is to not allow that individual to take part in the same event in the following year in which the infraction was committed (and of course anything in between).

66jack

Roy's wife

jack

Brian VH McHale

I hope your kidding.

Paul Borowski

....saw in the last Restorer an individual at the Gettysburg Regional in the awards description said "15 month suspension"???

...did he too leave early or was this for a bogus VIN/trim tag??? Anyone know???

jdk971

i do not think roy is trying to cut the org. up. he had a legit reason he had to leave. the org has rules and he knew them. he left. he just thinks
the ban is a little long.
i believe this org is needed even though i do not belong. these vehicles
need a org. to keep the history and info straight.
i also believe every org. has people that go by the letter of the law. for minor stuff like this, i believe in the spirit of the law or rules. jmho jim

ps. roy do not quit, till you cool down a while. the best jim

Mike Ward

On this site? You're right. Roy's knowledge is hard to match. The other dozens/hundreds of knowledgeable people on 53-55 that I've met via the NCRS don't come here.

I wonder why?

Michaelw

Its like a company; when you are a startup all is possible to achieve growth, when you are mid size there are rules but your staff is focussed on growing the business with you, when you become a corporation you are like a oiltanker with to many captains -to many people feeling important and trying to act important - making a course correction takes ages.....the result of being big = you loose flexibility and the personal touch. Because of its success (created by its members/ambassadors) the NCRS became an oil tanker...

Roy - I had the pleasure of meeting you a few times at the nationals! You are a sincere man and your knowledge is appreciated.

TomP - I can only say that I agree

My 2 cents: despite both sides of the story...the so called punishment is just over the top! Perhaps right according to the rule book (short term vision) but the negative exposure already this post has brought will have a long term effect, because many people will think twice when they hear the name NCRS....

Mike

Derrick Reynolds

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of NCRS. With that said, I have two comments here:

1. If someone deserved a penalty, and that penalty was waived or reduced due to the fact that someone was a "35 year member", THAT would make me think it was nothing more than an "old boy's club" and strongly discourage me from becoming a new member.

2. As far as people being "sticklers", if people who are "sticklers" for rules and minutia annoy you, and/or you are not at least a little bit of a "stickler" yourself, I would suggest that restoring a car for judging as a hobby is likely not a good match for your personality.

capevettes

In my opinion, the rules are there for a reason and they were knowingly broken. There should be some penalty as Roy acknowledges.

It just appears to me that the penalty is disproportionate to the offense. Roy's an interesting guy that brings a knowledge and perspective to the hobby that shouldn't be lost. I am confident that if Roy so chooses, Gary or Eric could be approached and this could be resolved amicably.