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Bill,
The changeover to an Appleton/Sweet style rack happened at #039 and both #039 and #040 are known. It's safe to say yours is at least #041.
The changeover point to the 2nd style body happened around #050 but I don't have a specific VIN. I thought I could distinguish 1st/2nd body styles from the profile but I can't be sure. I think you're GS has the 2nd design body, putting it north of ~#050.
There is another detail to check. Look at your headlight covers. Does the fender peak extend an inch or so into the covers (1st body design). Or does the fender peak stop before it reaches the headlight cover (2nd design body).
The graphic listing D&Ds for which I have some information is just that.... a graphic. Those are not intended to be clickable links. Sorry.
Jim
The changeover to an Appleton/Sweet style rack happened at #039 and both #039 and #040 are known. It's safe to say yours is at least #041.
The changeover point to the 2nd style body happened around #050 but I don't have a specific VIN. I thought I could distinguish 1st/2nd body styles from the profile but I can't be sure. I think you're GS has the 2nd design body, putting it north of ~#050.
There is another detail to check. Look at your headlight covers. Does the fender peak extend an inch or so into the covers (1st body design). Or does the fender peak stop before it reaches the headlight cover (2nd design body).
The graphic listing D&Ds for which I have some information is just that.... a graphic. Those are not intended to be clickable links. Sorry.
Jim
#1122
Burning Brakes
There is a million hours of GS knowledge here so I'm looking to identify the two light reflecting objects on outer edge of the hood underside. (Does any of the originals have them other than #004?). Also I spy with my little eye....8.5 written on front wheel in '64 , cb antenna mount not looking like the Collier car, underside of hood blacked out including the bungee and dzus hardware. Photo was taken after the gulf sticker was moved and before the names were painted on driver's door.
Thanks all
Larry Taylor
Thanks all
Larry Taylor
Also interesting is the modifications to the wheels wells. 8.5 on the front wheel would be the width, right? (Good catch btw)
#1123
Burning Brakes
Larry, those two light areas near the hood locks appear to be just light reflecting off changes in the contours of the fiberglass. I don't think they are actual objects which have been added to the hood.
My photo library is off-line at the moment due to $%#@@&&% router issues but I'll check it for any more revealing photos at my next opportunity.
Jim
My photo library is off-line at the moment due to $%#@@&&% router issues but I'll check it for any more revealing photos at my next opportunity.
Jim
Jim:
I'm curious if the light would reflect/refract? off each point exactly the same based on the POV of the picture.
The two items/spots on the bottom of the hood almost look like styrofoam, or some other like substance possibly for dampening the vibration of the hood as the wind/pressure tries to lift the hood.
With only a couple of leather straps holding it down, or hood pins, I would think vibration would be a possible issue.
Is this a possibility?
I love the GS and everything about them.
Ty
#1124
Burning Brakes
Perfect wheels for a Grand Sport.
Hello:
I still am working on a solution to the low profile tires, but in the mean time I thought I would post a few pictures of the wheels for my GS along with some period correct tires.
I think it's really cool to see them.
I know there are a lot of pictures of the same thing, but I was trying to get correct color combined with enough detail so it is easy to see.
Anyway, this is what I would like to run on my car if for nothing else because I think it would look really cool.
The "Orange" powered coating is actually the correct color for the Gulf Livery, however I don't think it comes off as well as I would have liked, sorry.
What are your thoughts?
Enjoy,
Ty
I still am working on a solution to the low profile tires, but in the mean time I thought I would post a few pictures of the wheels for my GS along with some period correct tires.
I think it's really cool to see them.
I know there are a lot of pictures of the same thing, but I was trying to get correct color combined with enough detail so it is easy to see.
Anyway, this is what I would like to run on my car if for nothing else because I think it would look really cool.
The "Orange" powered coating is actually the correct color for the Gulf Livery, however I don't think it comes off as well as I would have liked, sorry.
What are your thoughts?
Enjoy,
Ty
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I don't mean to steal Ty's thunder but Coker makes a nice reproduction of the tires. I have a set on my magnesium TT D wheels.
Rex
https://www.cokertire.com/firestone-indy-920-15.html
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Wow, thanks Rex. I didn't know about those tires. They look good.
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Hello:
I still am working on a solution to the low profile tires, but in the mean time I thought I would post a few pictures of the wheels for my GS along with some period correct tires.
I think it's really cool to see them.
I know there are a lot of pictures of the same thing, but I was trying to get correct color combined with enough detail so it is easy to see.
Anyway, this is what I would like to run on my car if for nothing else because I think it would look really cool.
The "Orange" powered coating is actually the correct color for the Gulf Livery, however I don't think it comes off as well as I would have liked, sorry.
What are your thoughts?
Enjoy,
Ty
I still am working on a solution to the low profile tires, but in the mean time I thought I would post a few pictures of the wheels for my GS along with some period correct tires.
I think it's really cool to see them.
I know there are a lot of pictures of the same thing, but I was trying to get correct color combined with enough detail so it is easy to see.
Anyway, this is what I would like to run on my car if for nothing else because I think it would look really cool.
The "Orange" powered coating is actually the correct color for the Gulf Livery, however I don't think it comes off as well as I would have liked, sorry.
What are your thoughts?
Enjoy,
Ty
Just what any self respecting GS would wear.
I too, am keen to know whereabouts you obtained the wheels?
BTW Are you sure that is the correct Gulf Oil colour?
It looks a bit severe to me
Marty
#1133
Has anyone ever made a replica of the early, non flared wheel GS? That would be a pretty car. It would look nearly identical to a 1964 Corvette with GS accents and a light weight frame. If you have the GS book, you would think they built many of these cars with the way they evolved and were modified.
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Never heard of one, but dang what a sleeper that would be!!!!!
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Are you referring to this look Tim?
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#1139
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When Phil Schmidt decided to retire he sold all his remaining stock and molds/dies to Vintage Wheels. I think I got one of the last 15'' sets that Phil did. The person to contact at Vintage Wheels is Rusty. They are still making the 17'' variety as that is what Mongoose offers on their kits. I was told that the demand for the 15'' wheels was not there. I have no idea what the minimum number would be to get them to do a run. When Phil did them he offered them in bolt on and knock off. He also offered two offsets for the rear 10'' wide wheels. 4'' and 6''. The fronts were 8'' wide and only had the 4'' offset. One important thing about the PSE wheels is that they just clear and I mean JUST the calipers on a standard C-4 brake. On mine I had to file about .100 off the cooling fins on the caliper for clearance. My Mongoose has the 15'' knock offs and I was considering the 5 spoke Americans as that what the Wintersteen car had on it as I really liked the look of the 5 spokes but I was not sure if they would clear the calipers so I went with the PSE's . I can tell you that wheels and tires and what they look like in a Grand Sport wheelhouse can drive you nuts !!! ---------Ken
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#1140
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They keep two sets of wheels and tires for the #004 car. They have one set of totally correct wheels and tires. These are ones below.
There's another set with current race tires.
Richard Newton
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There's another set with current race tires.
Richard Newton
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