NCRS Master Judging Manual
01-19-2011, 03:34 PM
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NCRS Master Judging Manual
I just purchased on ebay a NCRS Master Judging Manual (Item number: 280615325184). The manual is the Spring, 1987 edition. Corvettes years 1953-1972 are covered.
It contains information, photographs, and hand-drawn illustrations covering the judging of Corvettes, according to National Corvette Restorers Society guidelines.
I purchased it to see how far off my '62 is to NCRS guidelines. And hopefully making any necessary improvements as needed. Also it will give me an opportunity to learn more about earlier straight axles.
My question is, how much has judging a '62 changed since 1987? I mean the car was 25 years old back then, could NCRS judging of a '62 changed that much since this manual was published 24 years ago?
It contains information, photographs, and hand-drawn illustrations covering the judging of Corvettes, according to National Corvette Restorers Society guidelines.
I purchased it to see how far off my '62 is to NCRS guidelines. And hopefully making any necessary improvements as needed. Also it will give me an opportunity to learn more about earlier straight axles.
My question is, how much has judging a '62 changed since 1987? I mean the car was 25 years old back then, could NCRS judging of a '62 changed that much since this manual was published 24 years ago?
01-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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Team Owner
62Jeff might be the guy to ask (other than folks on the NCRS forum)....he had his beautiful '62 judged back then I believe (can't remember if it was Bloomington or Top Flight)....maybe he'll chime in.
01-19-2011, 04:31 PM
#4
Le Mans Master
Gotta agree with Mike, here. LOTS of things have been included since the good old days. Yesteryear's restorations are not anything like today's.
It's a good starting point though.
It's a good starting point though.
01-19-2011, 04:36 PM
#5
Safety Car
The most recent version is #5. You probably have version 2 or maybe 3. Some stuff is the same, but I agree with Mike, why not just get the most up to date version at ncrs.org. I think that they are $25 for members and $30 for non members.
Mike Coletta
Mike Coletta
01-19-2011, 05:18 PM
#6
Race Director
I'm sorry to say, but I think your going to find very little useful information, in that book.
I believe what you've bought is the forerunner to the "Corvette Judging Reference Manual", which outlines NCRS judging procedures, awards and qualifications for those awards, terms, judging levels, etc. If so, it does will not contain any specific information on your 62. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
What you are looking for is the "NCRS 61-62 Corvette Technical Information and Judging Manual". This is the book that contains information on numbers, colors, finishes, details, etc., about your 62. And you really do need a current copy, and not a 24 year old one. Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
I believe what you've bought is the forerunner to the "Corvette Judging Reference Manual", which outlines NCRS judging procedures, awards and qualifications for those awards, terms, judging levels, etc. If so, it does will not contain any specific information on your 62. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
What you are looking for is the "NCRS 61-62 Corvette Technical Information and Judging Manual". This is the book that contains information on numbers, colors, finishes, details, etc., about your 62. And you really do need a current copy, and not a 24 year old one. Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
01-19-2011, 05:39 PM
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I'm sorry to say, but I think your going to find very little useful information, in that book.
. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
01-19-2011, 09:15 PM
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01-19-2011, 09:23 PM
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This discussion puts a spotlight on something I think is VERY important but often overlooked.
It's not sufficient to document your car with an NCRS Top Flight, or Bloomington Gold. Without an understanding of when those awards were achieved, they have almost no value.
As the hobby learns more about what is correct (or not) the standard by which the cars are judged similarly changes.
It's not sufficient to document your car with an NCRS Top Flight, or Bloomington Gold. Without an understanding of when those awards were achieved, they have almost no value.
As the hobby learns more about what is correct (or not) the standard by which the cars are judged similarly changes.
01-19-2011, 09:37 PM
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I'm sorry to say, but I think your going to find very little useful information, in that book.
I believe what you've bought is the forerunner to the "Corvette Judging Reference Manual", which outlines NCRS judging procedures, awards and qualifications for those awards, terms, judging levels, etc. If so, it does will not contain any specific information on your 62. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
What you are looking for is the "NCRS 61-62 Corvette Technical Information and Judging Manual". This is the book that contains information on numbers, colors, finishes, details, etc., about your 62. And you really do need a current copy, and not a 24 year old one. Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
I believe what you've bought is the forerunner to the "Corvette Judging Reference Manual", which outlines NCRS judging procedures, awards and qualifications for those awards, terms, judging levels, etc. If so, it does will not contain any specific information on your 62. It may not be that useful as a judging reference even, as many of the NCRS's policies and procedures have changed since 1987.
What you are looking for is the "NCRS 61-62 Corvette Technical Information and Judging Manual". This is the book that contains information on numbers, colors, finishes, details, etc., about your 62. And you really do need a current copy, and not a 24 year old one. Quite a bit of new and updated information has come to light about all years of Corvettes, in the last 24 years.
I believe the purchase was a combination of the judging guides and reference manual at the time, enclosed in binder. Our process/knowledge has evolved significantly since.
01-20-2011, 04:00 PM
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In reading the responses from forum members, it seems that the documentation I purchased has little or no value. I disagree. Aside from the historical significance, there must be certain guidelines and procedures explained that would be the cornerstone of NCRS judging. In addition I also mentioned that also," it will give me an opportunity to learn more about earlier straight axles. "
I realize that in 24 years more history and documentation about my '62 has come to light and more precise judging has evolved. So does this mean that a Corvette that was judged NCRS Top Flight back in 1987 theoretically might not make Top Flight now.... given the knowledge gained and "improved judging"?
I realize that in 24 years more history and documentation about my '62 has come to light and more precise judging has evolved. So does this mean that a Corvette that was judged NCRS Top Flight back in 1987 theoretically might not make Top Flight now.... given the knowledge gained and "improved judging"?
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01-20-2011, 04:18 PM
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If you're really interested in learning more about your car and about the judging process, you need two publications:
1961-62 Corvette Technical Information Manual & Judging Guide, 5th Edition
Corvette Judging Reference Manual, 8th Edition
Both are available from the NCRS on-line store at www.ncrs.org.
01-20-2011, 04:25 PM
#14
It could work either way- the rules, scoring values and procedures have changed considerably even in the dozen years I've been a member.
What used to be a mortal sin may now just be looked upon as a 'meh'.
What used to be a mortal sin may now just be looked upon as a 'meh'.
01-20-2011, 08:36 PM
#17
Pro
for my `69, trying to rebuild it. I have bought thousands
of dollars worth of parts on Evil Bay that are not what I
could use. $12.49? You are just getting started.
Good luck and have fun.
Later Tony
NCRS # 16058
01-20-2011, 09:33 PM
#18
Melting Slicks
Yeah they are always finding out bits and pieces as history moves along. You need to buy the 61 - 62 judging guide and that will put you in the correct direction. But before you buy stuff ask questions on the NCRS TECH BOARD. Sometimes you can read into something incorrectly. Have fun and watch your wallet if you have to change a lot. These straight, solid axle stuff aint cheap. I just spent $700 plus dollars on making my wiper blades mint, polished stainless, re chromed with all numbers correct and correct rubbers. It's not for the faint hearted but I'm addicted to getting mine the way it left the showroom. Stewy
01-20-2011, 10:01 PM
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I have recently started a rebuild project on a 62. I saw that item on ebay and almost bid on it. This thread makes me glad I didn't. I just ordered the "1961-62 Corvette Technical Information Manual & Judging Guide, 5th Edition" from NCRS. Thanks for the directions.
Gary
Gary
