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Old 05-11-2011, 07:09 PM   #1
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Default Starter Nose--Question for Tom Parsons.

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I saw your picture of the 2 starters in a previous post--one cast iron nose and the other an aluminum nose.(pic below)
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I have 3 cast iron nose starters for my car (67 435HP)--1 in the car and 2 spares. The C.I. nose in your picture has tunnels where the 2 mounting bolts go. All 3 noses I have, have 1 tunnel on the outer bolt and 2 loops for the inner bolt to go through. I own an auto repair shop also, and all of the 3560 (Lester #) starters my rebuilder has, have the nose with the 2 loops. I have seen a few of the noses like you have, but have been unable to get my hands on any. The lower loop has a habit of breaking off if you make the inner bolt too tight. I have even had one break using a torque wrench set to 30 FT/LBS before it even clicked. What were those full tunnel noses used on ???

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Old 05-11-2011, 08:34 PM   #2
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Tom,

I saw your picture of the 2 starters in a previous post--one cast iron nose and the other an aluminum nose. I have 3 cast iron nose starters for my car (67 435HP)--1 in the car and 2 spares. The C.I. nose in your picture has tunnels where the 2 mounting bolts go. All 3 noses I have, have 1 tunnel on the inner bolt and 2 loops for the outer bolt to go through. I own an auto repair shop also, and all of the 3560 (Lester #) starters my rebuilder has, have the nose with the 2 loops. I have seen a few of the noses like you have, but have been unable to get my hands on one. The lower loop has a habit of breaking off if you make the outer bolt too tight. I have even had one break using a torque wrench set to 30 FT/LBS before it even clicked. What were those full tunnel noses used on ???


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If I'm not mistaken all big block starters have three bolt holes. last 4 digets should be 3365. Check this out.# 170634827223
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If I'm not mistaken all big block starters have three bolt holes. last 4 digits should be 3365. Check this out.# 170634827223
Hi Tom,

That's one I've never seen before. I've seen them with 3 full tunnel holes. I just added a picture to my post above. I have 3 starters with the nose above. I have seen ones like Tom Parsons posted a pic of, and I have also seen ones with 3 holes. The problem with the ones I have, is if you tighten the inner bolt too much, the lower loop breaks off, and then you have a useless nose.


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look at tis one..300498899934
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look at tis one..300498899934
It's hard to see because it's so dirty, but that one looks a 3 holer with loops. I guess they made them in many configurations--loops, tunnels, & both. What does the one on your 66 look like ???

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It's hard to see because it's so dirty, but that one looks a 3 holer with loops. I guess they made them in many configurations--loops, tunnels, & both. What does the one on your 66 look like ???
Next time I bring it to work you can come look at it on the lift.
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Well, I pulled up the picture that I posted and then looked at a couple of iron starter noses that I have. Two have the loop and the one complete starter that I have has the tunnel on the inside. I also have this type of starter on the Chevelle, but I don't know which nose it has.
Sooooooooooooo, I can't tell you where I got the one with the inside tunnel (but it MIGHT be a rebuilt starter I got from O'Reilly).
Sorry.

I just checked my pictures of the Chevelle engine. It has the starter nose with the loop as seen below.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:16 AM   #8
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The cast iron nose is a 427/396 starter,,,,here's where it gets strange, the 350 starter is the staggered aluminum nose but it also fits a 454 until the HEI ignition came out with a metric starter that physically looks the same but has a slightly restyled case and short switch with 2 posts instead of 3 and uses metric bolts...now the smaller permanent magnet also a staggered nose starter and another metric {sometimes called the GM mini } fits almost all of the engines...350 and 454......

The 327 engines use the same starter as a Buick and Caddie, straight across aluminum nose with a long and short bolt except a 1962 that's back to another cast iron nose....time for a
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