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Old 06-11-2011, 09:08 AM
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A friend is restomoding a 61 with aftermarket frame and is keeping it registered with that vin. Another friend has a 61 with bad frame so he bought the frame. The car is registered in Florida with title etc and he was wondering if he should just grind off the vin on the frame since he has a good titlle with an original vin tag.

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Old 06-11-2011, 09:11 AM
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Does the state in which your second friend lives, consider grinding a VIN number, illegal tampering?
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Originally Posted by Tyler Townsley
A friend is restomoding a 61 with aftermarket frame and is keeping it registered with that vin. Another friend has a 61 with bad frame so he bought the frame. The car is registered in Florida with title etc and he was wondering if he should just grind off the vin on the frame since he has a good titlle with an original vin tag.

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Friend #2 will probably be OK if the original VIN tag is properly attached to the steering column and he NEVER moves to North Carolina.

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Originally Posted by Tyler Townsley
Another friend has a 61 with bad frame so he bought the frame. The car is registered in Florida with title etc and he was wondering if he should just grind off the vin on the frame since he has a good titlle with an original vin tag.

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I would. Law enforcement may consider the frame VIN the definitive VIN, which won't match his title VIN.
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That's a tough one. If, at some point in the future, it's necessary for a motor vehicle dept to check numbers, which is going to be worse - a ground-off number or one which does not match the VIN tag? Either one is apt to make all sorts of problems.

Might be worthwhile to make out a bill of sale for the frame, have it notarized, and the guy who buys it should keep that BOS on hand for when he sells the car. Might save someone some hassle, and also could make his sale of the car easier.
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That's a tough one. If, at some point in the future, it's necessary for a motor vehicle dept to check numbers, which is going to be worse - a ground-off number or one which does not match the VIN tag? Either one is apt to make all sorts of problems.

Might be worthwhile to make out a bill of sale for the frame, have it notarized, and the guy who buys it should keep that BOS on hand for when he sells the car. Might save someone some hassle, and also could make his sale of the car easier.
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I agree with the bill of sale also. Would take a pic of frame, and then one pic of frame number. Maybe even one 1/2 way done with grinding to show thats its that number.
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
Might be worthwhile to make out a bill of sale for the frame, have it notarized, and the guy who buys it should keep that BOS on hand for when he sells the car. Might save someone some hassle, and also could make his sale of the car easier.
LOTS of old Corvettes have had the frame replaced, and there will be more and more as those 40-year-old frames deteriorate and turn to piles of rust. The VIN plate on the body is the primary legal identifier for the car; the shortened VIN derivative on the frame is not. If you have to replace the frame, document it.
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Thanks.

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Just fill the frame VIN and paint it. There isn't an agency in the world that would pull the body to check the frame VIN as long as the VIN tag is okay. Even if someone tried to check the frame VIN, they would just assume that it isn't visible if they can't find it.

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The odds of it ever becomming an issue is slim, but if it were me, I would cut out the section of the frame that has the VIN on it and keep it with the vin tag and title.

Patching that small section would be an easy fix. Might even consider fixing it with the same section from the bad frame.

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