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Old 06-30-2011, 01:18 AM
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Does anyone feel like giving an opinion of value for this car?
I have a friend who would like to aquire it. I think it would be a ton of fun if purchased for a reasonable $. Had it up on a hoist. The frame and birdcage look really good. Engine crisp. Aftermarket hood. ALL the mechanicals for the headlites are gone - they are just floating [very bad]. Took it for a drive. It wanders but the upgraded later disc brakes all the way around stop it the way they should. Rr wheel bearings seem tight, needs a clutch. My friend is an accomplished car guy, has a fleet of classics now. No plans to restore - just roar around and have fun. Might have some extra value being a '63 coupe. For some reason the side pipes are dummies. Any other observations? If anyone feels like decoding the # plates ...
"The brakes are good and the tires fair....."





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I like it. I usually like original cars but the fender flares on this car is looking really good so i would keep them.

It all depends on the price if the frame and birdcage(well all of the car) is good i suppose
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What's with the VIN tag? Does it have a clear title?

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Old 06-30-2011, 07:52 AM
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What engine, transmission? Any pics of the engine?
Old 06-30-2011, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by redred65cpe
What's with the VIN tag? Does it have a clear title?

larry


It looks like someone took off the vin tag for some reason and put another back on..Be VERY VERY careful with this car..My first thought its (or was) stolen...No reason to take Vin tag off...

I personally would pass on it..
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:23 AM
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Default Vin tag

Weren't 63 vin tags welded on just like this one is ???


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It needs the six tail light treatment and it would be complete. If it were mine, I wouldn't change a thing.

Wash, wax, drive.
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Car looks like a lot of fun. need to see more of these on the street. It would be something fun to take to NCRS and pull off a top fuel burnout.
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Originally Posted by redred65cpe
What's with the VIN tag? Does it have a clear title?

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Look little closer at vin tag...Its benn taken off and rewelded again!!! You can see it..
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Originally Posted by redred65cpe
What's with the VIN tag? Does it have a clear title?

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That's the way they were in 63. Sometimes the vin tag has more than one spot weld. Spot welding the Vin tag on was always a problem and I think that is why the factory went to the rosette rivet.
I think this vin tag would easily pass judging. Just my opinion.
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Yep...my first Vette was a '64 and it was the same way on Vin Tag.

Looks like a cool car. The flares look nice...I'd leave them too.

Tell us what they are asking and it would be alot easier. Underhood or underneath pics?

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Take the silly number off the side and let her eat!
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Looks cool, but if it were mine I think I'd loose the tail pipes.



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I like it. There's nothing wrong with the VIN tag. I hope your friend gets it.

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Definetly something wrong with the vin tag, you can see the grinding marks where it was removed and rewelded. Has the owner said anything about that. I would want to check that out and also compare it to the title.
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The grinding marks and the spot welds are typical of 1963 production. I see no problem with either tag. Bill
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Originally Posted by Blk63Vette
Larry

Look little closer at vin tag...Its benn taken off and rewelded again!!! You can see it..
I agree,,, you can see where the paint has been ground off under teh tag, to reweld...does teh tag match teh frame number? or teh engine number? something is going on there,,,
be careful...

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Originally Posted by knockbill
I agree,,, you can see where the paint has been ground off under teh tag, to reweld...does teh tag match teh frame number? or teh engine number? something is going on there,,,
be careful...
That's the way it was done in the factory. It's necessary to have an unpainted surface for the spot weld to hold so they ground off paint then spot welded it on.
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Originally Posted by Bill Lacy
That's the way it was done in the factory. It's necessary to have an unpainted surface for the spot weld to hold so they ground off paint then spot welded it on.
Yup, that way for '63 and IIRC spot welded for '64 also.



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Originally Posted by Bill Lacy
That's the way they were in 63. Sometimes the vin tag has more than one spot weld. Spot welding the Vin tag on was always a problem and I think that is why the factory went to the rosette rivet.
I think this vin tag would easily pass judging. Just my opinion.
I agree Bill. IT IS in my opinion an original spot welded vin tag and trim tag. 63 and 64 were spot welded. see the grinder marks to clean the cross bar? That is how they did it until the began riviting the vin tag in 1965.
The trim tag says DAYTONA BLUE 916 Paint. Dark blue, and 490J= Daytona blue interior with U69 AM ONLY Radio. Later cars had AM/FM.
I like the car. A good friend recently bought a similar 66 with a 69 good running 350/350 Corvette engine for $30. He loves it.


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