Cast iron PG for C1
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Cast iron PG for C1
I get so many question over and over about this (that the PG leaks when sitting ) 99% of the time it's #13 as written about in this again drawing. If the valve body show a grove inside it's done for, so many people rebuild there PG and don't look for this situation and then ask why it still leaks . So please read.
There are three metal ring seals (numbers 13 and 14 in the picture) inside the Powerglide that often leak internally inside the transmission. The input shaft ring (#13) seals the input shaft to the inside bore of the valve body and the clutch drum oil seal rings (#14) seals the valve body to the inside bore of the clutch drum. The problem is these are metal ring seals that turn against metal parts. On high mileage transmissions a groove will develop inside the valve body bore from the input shaft ring, and inside the clutch drum from the clutch drum rings, and they will start to leak. You can replace the rings but if the bores of the valve body and the drum are grooved the rings will not seal 100% and the torque converter will leak down over time while parked. Using the best valve body and drum you can find during a rebuild will help.
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Last edited by 1955 copper; 10-24-2011 at 12:12 PM.
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My '60 powerglide doesn't leak a drop, but I can't wait for it start leaking so I can ask you questions about it! I figure that you know your way around these strange to me transmissions. Oh yeah, sometimes when I put it in gear when its cold, nothing happens. Just neutral - let it warm a bit and everything is fine. I've been draining and refilling to exchange fluid a lot over the summer and now it happens less frequently. Any Ideas about that? This car had only been driven about 70 miles in the last 6 or 7 years prior to my purchasing it in February this year. I've managed about 1200 miles this year so far.
Thanks, Jeff
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My '60 powerglide doesn't leak a drop, but I can't wait for it start leaking so I can ask you questions about it! I figure that you know your way around these strange to me transmissions. Oh yeah, sometimes when I put it in gear when its cold, nothing happens. Just neutral - let it warm a bit and everything is fine. I've been draining and refilling to exchange fluid a lot over the summer and now it happens less frequently. Any Ideas about that? This car had only been driven about 70 miles in the last 6 or 7 years prior to my purchasing it in February this year. I've managed about 1200 miles this year so far.
Thanks, Jeff
Thanks, Jeff
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In defense of the poor old Powerslide. In the late 50's / early 60's Doug (original owner) and my brother used to take the 55 out to the Pleasanton, Ca. Fair grounds on weekends to autocross it. You could leave it in low and run the whole course that way. You can wind it up to almost 60 mph.
Roy; Hasn't leaked a drop since your rebuild. bj
Roy; Hasn't leaked a drop since your rebuild. bj
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Roy, wished you lived closer to Texas. I tried the poor man's rebuild, TransX fluid, in my '59 PG. Still drips. Any recommendation on a quick liquid fix (I'm dreaming)? Had it since November and don't want to leave a spot in a friend's driveway.
thanks, Bob
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Hey Roy...good information.
My powerglide drips only when I fill it to spec using dipstick, hot and in nuetral. I finally stopped filling it and kept driving until it finally stopped leaking. Now it is dry underneath and low on the stick but runs fine.
Thought maybe I had the wrong trans dipstick but after checking it out it is the correct stick. Runs fine currently.
Don't really know what is going on but no longer leaks.
Fred
My powerglide drips only when I fill it to spec using dipstick, hot and in nuetral. I finally stopped filling it and kept driving until it finally stopped leaking. Now it is dry underneath and low on the stick but runs fine.
Thought maybe I had the wrong trans dipstick but after checking it out it is the correct stick. Runs fine currently.
Don't really know what is going on but no longer leaks.
Fred