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Old 03-23-2012, 11:16 AM
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They are E3 spark plugs and are supposed to offer a more complete burning giving more horsepower and fuel economy. Just curious because I'm about to change my plugs and don't want to invest in something that just isn't worth it.

Also, the plugs are difficult to get to even in my '66 327 and was wondering what wrench people use to get at the plugs without busting their knuckles.
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Absolute snake oil straight from the master marketeers. Did they say- 'but wait there's more'?
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Looks like a triumph of marketing over technology.

IOW.... a gimmick.

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Originally Posted by Rakkasan
They are E3 spark plugs and are supposed to offer a more complete burning giving more horsepower and fuel economy. Just curious because I'm about to change my plugs and don't want to invest in something that just isn't worth it.

Also, the plugs are difficult to get to even in my '66 327 and was wondering what wrench people use to get at the plugs without busting their knuckles.
My wife's hands worked pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Lou64
My wife's hands worked pretty well.
Your best friend is an old spark plug boot off an old plug wire.
You just need to break the plug loose and then put the boot on it and unscrew it...a universal joint socket adapter sometimes helps to break the plug loose. The boot should be used when installing too - gives a much better 'feel' and prevents stripping the plug hole. Screw the plug in with the boot and then snug it a bit with a socket.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Your best friend is an old spark plug boot off an old plug wire.
You just need to break the plug loose and then put the boot on it and unscrew it...a universal joint socket adapter sometimes helps to break the plug loose. The boot should be used when installing too - gives a much better 'feel' and prevents stripping the plug hole. Screw the plug in with the boot and then snug it a bit with a socket.
Great idea! Thanks!
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If you can't find an old spark plug boot when installing the plugs, push a short piece of vacuum hose over the plug and use it to thread the plug in the head.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Absolute snake oil straight from the master marketeers. Did they say- 'but wait there's more'?
Thank you for your erudite response.
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Originally Posted by Rakkasan

Also, the plugs are difficult to get to even in my '66 327 and was wondering what wrench people use to get at the plugs without busting their knuckles.
I use a straight ratchet, a flex handle ratchet, straight plug socket, flex plug socket and an extension, depending on which plug I'm working on.

Since it looks like a set of plugs every 10-15 years for me, I don't expect to wear the tools out.

Go get the cheapest name brand plugs you can find that are AC R45 or AC R45S equivalent. Don't fall for the rare metal tip plugs that cost $5-$8 apiece. Those are for new cars ignitions, not old ones.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
I use a straight ratchet, a flex handle ratchet, straight plug socket, flex plug socket and an extension, depending on which plug I'm working on.

Since it looks like a set of plugs every 10-15 years for me, I don't expect to wear the tools out.

Go get the cheapest name brand plugs you can find that are AC 45 or AC 45S equivalent. Don't fall for the rare metal tip plugs that cost $5-$8 apiece. Those are for new cars ignitions, not old ones.
Autolite #86 plugs are an excellent choice and they are probably 1/4 the cost of the 'trick' plugs... Cast iron heads are pretty tough but after running aluminum heads for years I just got used to using the spark plug boot...never cross threaded a plug in 35 years this way.

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To break loose / tighten those that are in the back (esp passenger side) I have used these. The are known as header sockets. Set comes in both spark plug sizes.

The opening (slot) in the socket allows you to slip them over the spark plug. Pretty straight forward from there, with either a socket or box end wrench.



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E3?....doesn't Al Gore own that company?
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Most spark plug sockets have a hex on the end, usually 3/4". In tight spots, I use a box or open end wrench to break the plug loose, then unscrew it by hand.
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I knew I had seen some commparisons that had been done between standard plugs and E3 plugs. Rather timely as one just ran on Horsepower TV Episode 299. There was also one done on Gearz TV show. Both comparisons showed a difference. With the E3 performing better. I run them in both of my 327 engines, As for the plug wernch I got the Powerhouse wenches. I had one plug that I couldn't get to on a 327 in a 62 Impala Super Sport with Hedman full length headers. The Powerhouse wrenches got it. I would say they are not inexpensive.

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I'm not sure about their automotive plugs, but one observation I've made on all of their lawn and garden plugs that I've looked at is that they are made in China. I'm not sure if that matters to you or not, but I will not buy Chinese-made plugs to put in anything I own - including my lawnmower.

In fact, I just stocked up American-made plugs for my mower last night because they are getting harder to find these days.
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Originally Posted by Jalopy31
but I will not buy Chinese-made plugs to put in anything I own - including my lawnmower.


In fact, I just stocked up American-made plugs for my mower last night because they are getting harder to find these days.
You bet. . .
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Originally Posted by wenmaxjr
I knew I had seen some commparisons that had been done between standard plugs and E3 plugs. Rather timely as one just ran on Horsepower TV Episode 299. There was also one done on Gearz TV show. Both comparisons showed a difference. With the E3 performing better.
Neither of those could be called unbiased, reliable resources. Have a look to see who's paying the production costs as an advertiser.

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Originally Posted by Jalopy31
I'm not sure if that matters to you or not, but I will not buy Chinese-made plugs to put in anything I own - including my lawnmower.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Absolute snake oil straight from the master marketeers. Did they say- 'but wait there's more'?
Snake oil was exactly my response when I saw the thread title. ACs of the correct heat range will work just fine, although I usually install Japanese NGKs, the choice of thousands of bike and car racers worldwide, including some NASCAR teams who run a different decal on their cars.

My wife's small-block '66 had full power and air, impossible to get to the ignition covers or plugs through the hood. But quite easy from underneath, just be sure to use jackstands!
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