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Old 04-02-2012, 10:57 PM
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Default Is there a secret to removing C2 vent weatherstrip?

It appears the only way to install the weatherstripping on a C2 vent window is to remove the vent window from the outer vent window frame.

Have I got this correct?

What's the preferred method of removing the vent window from it's outer frame? I am inclined to remove the two rivets that hold the pivot hinge to the outer vent frame.

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You don't need to take out any rivets. Remove the frame from the car. Push down on the window/glass, and it will come off of the pin.

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Originally Posted by mike coletta
You don't need to take out any rivets. Remove the frame from the car. Push down on the window/glass, and it will come off of the pin.

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I think you're talking about a convertible, which is correct. On a coupe as I'm recalling, I think you have to remove the single rivet at the upper part of the vent window pivot, then replace once the weatherstrip is installed. I'm also recalling that some folks have cut through one side of the new weatherstrip where the shaft on the vent window passes through in order to avoid removing and replacing the rivet. Not sure how this has worked out, maybe somebody will give you some information on this procedure.

I removed and replaced the rivet, but I was doing a complete paint and removed and replaced all window glass, weatherstrip, etc.

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Originally Posted by Ron Miller
I think you're talking about a convertible, which is correct. On a coupe as I'm recalling, I think you have to remove the single rivet at the upper part of the vent window pivot, then replace once the weatherstrip is installed. I'm also recalling that some folks have cut through one side of the new weatherstrip where the shaft on the vent window passes through in order to avoid removing and replacing the rivet. Not sure how this has worked out, maybe somebody will give you some information on this procedure.

I removed and replaced the rivet, but I was doing a complete paint and removed and replaced all window glass, weatherstrip, etc.

Me too - on my coupe. It would be great if there was a way to do it w/o drilling out the rivet but there isn't.
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Originally Posted by BrentF
It appears the only way to install the weatherstripping on a C2 vent window is to remove the vent window from the outer vent window frame.

Have I got this correct?

What's the preferred method of removing the vent window from it's outer frame? I am inclined to remove the two rivets that hold the pivot hinge to the outer vent frame.
That's how I did it on my coupe.

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oops!!! You're right. I didn't look at the picture. On a coupe you have to remove the rivets.

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Okay, thanks guys. Just wanted to be sure before I did anything rash (and unnecessary).

Looks like invasive procedures are required, as I am dealing with a coupe and not a convertible.

I think the idea of cutting the weatherstripping defeats why I am replacing it in the first place, so I'll be going the rivet route.
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Will I need one of these to flare the end of the rivet, on the hinge pivot?

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I used regular pop rivets to replace the 2 that attach the hinge to the frame because they are hidden. That way, the visible hinge rivet remains untouched.

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Originally Posted by 1snake
I used regular pop rivets to replace the 2 that attach the hinge to the frame because they are hidden. That way, the visible hinge rivet remains untouched.

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Jim, that's what I am tempted to do as well. Did you find that the weatherstripping could be installed easily with the hinge already in place, since doing it your way changes the sequence of install, from:

complete weatherstrip install first, then hinge pivot install

to

partial weatherstrip install (at T bar end) , hinge pivot install, then balance of weatherstrip install

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Brent,

I don't remember the exact sequence but it will be obvious when you start putting it back together. It was quite easy.

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While it's very tempting to install the W/S by cutting it, the right way is to pull the vent window assembly and drill out the pivot rivet. That piece of W/S is $30 to $40 and it seems silly to cut it up instead of taking the extra time to do it right.
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I didn't know whether I wanted to chance replacing the hinge pivot rivet or take the easier route and replace the two rivets that hold the hinge mechanism to the frame, but Corvette Central made that decision for me, since the hinge pivot rivet (CC part # 282216)is on back order until April 10th.

Rather than going with a conventional rivet, as Jim suggested, to hold the hinge to the frame (2 rivets required), I decided to go with the rivets that are available as a pair that hold the T bar to the frame (CC part # 282137), to adhere to originality.

This way I can avoid buying the fancy (one use for me) rivet tool pictured above, since the rivets are not visible.

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Originally Posted by BrentF
I didn't know whether I wanted to chance replacing the hinge pivot rivet or take the easier route and replace the two rivets that hold the hinge mechanism to the frame, but Corvette Central made that decision for me, since the hinge pivot rivet (CC part # 282216)is on back order until April 10th.

Rather than going with a conventional rivet, as Jim suggested, to hold the hinge to the frame (2 rivets required), I decided to go with the rivets that are available as a pair that hold the T bar to the frame (CC part # 282137), to adhere to originality.

This way I can avoid buying the fancy (one use for me) rivet tool pictured above, since the rivets are not visible.
I was going to go that route as well and even bought the rivets you're talking about BUT found it almost impossible to install them because the W/S was in the way. Pop rivets were quick and simple.

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Jim: Your suggestion of pop rivets will be my back-up if things prove too difficult otherwise.
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OK, I'm one of those great offenders who cut the weatherstrip. Cut it open at the hole for the hinge pin with a razor blade. Put it back together with weatherstrip adhesive after it was installed. Is it perfect? No, but you have to look close to tell that it's been messed with. And my car is far from NCRS or show or any of that.
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Originally Posted by 1snake
I used regular pop rivets to replace the 2 that attach the hinge to the frame because they are hidden. That way, the visible hinge rivet remains untouched.

Jim
Do it as you please, but I'd rather do the hinge rivet, they're available from several sources other than CC. You really don't need the tool to set the rivet, it's not a solid shank rivet as I'm recalling. I think the ones I procured had a hollow end, and I used either a B-B (yes, from a BB gun) or a small ball bearing from somewhere. Placed the ball (or BB) on the hollow end of the rivet and used a pair of Vice Grip pliers to upset the hollow end of the rivet. Use a couple layers of tape on the flat head of the rivet to keep from marring or scratching it. Worked like a charm, can't tell it from the factory one I removed.

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Originally Posted by Ron Miller
Do it as you please, but I'd rather do the hinge rivet, they're available from several sources other than CC. You really don't need the tool to set the rivet, it's not a solid shank rivet as I'm recalling. I think the ones I procured had a hollow end, and I used either a B-B (yes, from a BB gun) or a small ball bearing from somewhere. Placed the ball (or BB) on the hollow end of the rivet and used a pair of Vice Grip pliers to upset the hollow end of the rivet. Use a couple layers of tape on the flat head of the rivet to keep from marring or scratching it. Worked like a charm, can't tell it from the factory one I removed.

That's a really good suggestion for setting the hinge rivet. The hinge rivet has benefits to it, namely there is only one per vent and the setting of the rivet is more accessible that the other two on the hinge itself.

Here's the hinge rivet. No doubt it is hollow on the left hand side in the picture below:

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Originally Posted by BrentF

Here's the hinge rivet. No doubt it is hollow on the left hand side in the picture below:


As I'm recalling, mine was . . . . .

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Originally Posted by BrentF

Here's the hinge rivet. No doubt it is hollow on the left hand side in the picture below:

Yes, it is - it's a semi-tubular rivet (solid at the head end, tubular at the tail end).


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