NEWBIE Corvette School: CL 1963 CONV
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NEWBIE Corvette School: CL 1963 CONV
See, I learned something already... some of you hate to see VERT in the title!
Anyway.
I posted a Green 67 I saw on Craigslist last week, and got some great feedback from you guys in response.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...39k-ny-cl.html
Upfront, I hope to be looking to buy a nice driver for the low/mid 30s in the fall, and am working on my Corvette education while I am saving pennies to hopefully be ready then.
What I will want is a Mechanically Sound Car that is as close to stock as possible for my budget, but not concerned with Top Flight/Judging. Mechanically sound because I a neophyte with a wrench (BUT WILLING TO LEARN). I need to be able to drive the car and fix the deficiencies on the weekends or in the winter.
So
I see this car and go ga-ga,
Red 63 Corvette Convertible $36.9K
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/3128430369.html
but I don't really know what I am looking at
More pics here
https://picasaweb.google.com/1037502...CPOt2-OYjOv7cw
I am sure this one will be gone soon, but here the description
Anyway.
I posted a Green 67 I saw on Craigslist last week, and got some great feedback from you guys in response.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...39k-ny-cl.html
Upfront, I hope to be looking to buy a nice driver for the low/mid 30s in the fall, and am working on my Corvette education while I am saving pennies to hopefully be ready then.
What I will want is a Mechanically Sound Car that is as close to stock as possible for my budget, but not concerned with Top Flight/Judging. Mechanically sound because I a neophyte with a wrench (BUT WILLING TO LEARN). I need to be able to drive the car and fix the deficiencies on the weekends or in the winter.
So
I see this car and go ga-ga,
Red 63 Corvette Convertible $36.9K
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/3128430369.html
but I don't really know what I am looking at
More pics here
https://picasaweb.google.com/1037502...CPOt2-OYjOv7cw
I am sure this one will be gone soon, but here the description
1963 C2 - Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Roadster
Rust-Free Southern Car, title in hand
with 4-wheel Disk Brakes
1963 Corvette C2 "Mid-Year", with non - numbers matching 300+ HP 327Ci V8, and 4-speed manual transmission. Four wheel disk brakes upgrade. The car also has real knock off aluminum wheels.
History:
Car in enclosed storage in Alabama from 1993 -- 2009 (16 years)
Major frame-on restoration completed in Missouri in 2011
Drivetrain restoration included:
1967 300hp, 327 fully rebuilt
Muncie M21 4 speed transmission rebuilt
New HDI distributor, coil, wires
New Radiator, expansion tank cap, hoses, clamps
New Edelbrock intake manifold, and Performer 1405 600 CFM carburetor
New Edelbrock aluminum valve covers
New Chrome Air Cleaner and Element
New clutch, and balanced flywheel
New headers, exhaust, mufflers and rear bezels
Suspension restoration included:
New control arm bushings and hardware
Front end parts replaced as required including ball joint, tie rod end, etc.
New shocks
New front springs and re-curved rear spring
Brake refresh (1965, 4 wheel disks already installed)
SS braided brake lines
Body and interior restoration included:
Started with Excellent Original body had almost zero fiberglass cracking.
Frame inspected, in excellent condition left as-is
Body stripped to bare glass, doors re-aligned / adjusted
New Dupont Base, clear coat paint applied. Original Riverside Red color #923
New convertible top
New rugs
New fuel tank & sending unit
New headlight motors
New wiring from firewall
Rust-Free Southern Car, title in hand
with 4-wheel Disk Brakes
1963 Corvette C2 "Mid-Year", with non - numbers matching 300+ HP 327Ci V8, and 4-speed manual transmission. Four wheel disk brakes upgrade. The car also has real knock off aluminum wheels.
History:
Car in enclosed storage in Alabama from 1993 -- 2009 (16 years)
Major frame-on restoration completed in Missouri in 2011
Drivetrain restoration included:
1967 300hp, 327 fully rebuilt
Muncie M21 4 speed transmission rebuilt
New HDI distributor, coil, wires
New Radiator, expansion tank cap, hoses, clamps
New Edelbrock intake manifold, and Performer 1405 600 CFM carburetor
New Edelbrock aluminum valve covers
New Chrome Air Cleaner and Element
New clutch, and balanced flywheel
New headers, exhaust, mufflers and rear bezels
Suspension restoration included:
New control arm bushings and hardware
Front end parts replaced as required including ball joint, tie rod end, etc.
New shocks
New front springs and re-curved rear spring
Brake refresh (1965, 4 wheel disks already installed)
SS braided brake lines
Body and interior restoration included:
Started with Excellent Original body had almost zero fiberglass cracking.
Frame inspected, in excellent condition left as-is
Body stripped to bare glass, doors re-aligned / adjusted
New Dupont Base, clear coat paint applied. Original Riverside Red color #923
New convertible top
New rugs
New fuel tank & sending unit
New headlight motors
New wiring from firewall
Last edited by Revfan; 07-09-2012 at 03:45 PM.
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Le Mans Master
Sounds like a great driver! Although not 100% "correct". It's had a LOT of the stuff you would need to make it a reliable driver.
#4
Melting Slicks
I had to chuckle when I saw the NCRS plates. If you’re looking for originality, that’s not you’re car. I see 20-30 mods in the engine compartment and interior shots alone. It looks like a real smorgasbord of parts.
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Revfan,
Please slow down. I have followed your posts, so I know your intentions are good.
But, there are SO MANY non original items on this car I would get tired typing them all.
IMHO the green car you posted last week was much closer to original. Biggest thing that one needed was a paint job...........
Please slow down. I have followed your posts, so I know your intentions are good.
But, there are SO MANY non original items on this car I would get tired typing them all.
IMHO the green car you posted last week was much closer to original. Biggest thing that one needed was a paint job...........
#7
Le Mans Master
Revfan,
Please slow down. I have followed your posts, so I know your intentions are good.
But, there are SO MANY non original items on this car I would get tired typing them all.
IMHO the green car you posted last week was much closer to original. Biggest thing that one needed was a paint job...........
Please slow down. I have followed your posts, so I know your intentions are good.
But, there are SO MANY non original items on this car I would get tired typing them all.
IMHO the green car you posted last week was much closer to original. Biggest thing that one needed was a paint job...........
If the OP wants anything close to original? This isn't it. He will pay a lot more for anything close to original or properly restored. He needs to keep looking.
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Pro
Upfront, I hope to be looking to buy a nice driver for the low/mid 30s in the fall, and am working on my Corvette education while I am saving pennies to hopefully be ready then.
What I will want is a Mechanically Sound Car that is as close to stock as possible for my budget, but not concerned with Top Flight/Judging.
#9
Tech Contributor
Driver's side headlight bucket is wonky, same side of the hood is sitting low, etc.
#10
Safety Car
'63 with a '66 hood, convert top looks wonky could just be adjustment, headers with wires laying on top, no ignition shielding, wrong engine who knows about the rest of the driveline, wrong master cylinder(but that's an improvement) wrong distributor, imo the '67 is a far better car for about the same money....if you can put up with the paint, don't forget that '67's seem to be the pride of the fleet ... my .02c
Last edited by vt65; 07-09-2012 at 09:13 PM.
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I Agree
I have looked over these two cars carefully. They are both about the same money, but completely different cars in my opinion.
There are MANY things on the Red car that I would never be happy with (look at the dash over the glove box for example) The Red car is shiny and clean, but that is where it ends.
The Green car is more genuine and MUCH more original. Not to mention that it is a '67 (some think that increases the value) it has both tops, and most importantly it has Factory Air.
The only detriment I see about the Green car is that it needs to be painted, and that can be fixed.
If it were my money, I would choose the Green car, hands down (and that comes from a guy who absolutely prefers a '63 over a '67)
I have looked over these two cars carefully. They are both about the same money, but completely different cars in my opinion.
There are MANY things on the Red car that I would never be happy with (look at the dash over the glove box for example) The Red car is shiny and clean, but that is where it ends.
The Green car is more genuine and MUCH more original. Not to mention that it is a '67 (some think that increases the value) it has both tops, and most importantly it has Factory Air.
The only detriment I see about the Green car is that it needs to be painted, and that can be fixed.
If it were my money, I would choose the Green car, hands down (and that comes from a guy who absolutely prefers a '63 over a '67)
#12
Pro
I Agree
I have looked over these two cars carefully. They are both about the same money, but completely different cars in my opinion.
There are MANY things on the Red car that I would never be happy with (look at the dash over the glove box for example) The Red car is shiny and clean, but that is where it ends.
The Green car is more genuine and MUCH more original. Not to mention that it is a '67 (some think that increases the value) it has both tops, and most importantly it has Factory Air.
The only detriment I see about the Green car is that it needs to be painted, and that can be fixed.
If it were my money, I would choose the Green car, hands down (and that comes from a guy who absolutely prefers a '63 over a '67)
I have looked over these two cars carefully. They are both about the same money, but completely different cars in my opinion.
There are MANY things on the Red car that I would never be happy with (look at the dash over the glove box for example) The Red car is shiny and clean, but that is where it ends.
The Green car is more genuine and MUCH more original. Not to mention that it is a '67 (some think that increases the value) it has both tops, and most importantly it has Factory Air.
The only detriment I see about the Green car is that it needs to be painted, and that can be fixed.
If it were my money, I would choose the Green car, hands down (and that comes from a guy who absolutely prefers a '63 over a '67)
#13
Le Mans Master
"restoration in MO in 2011?" Lots of overspray underneath, not a careful job. Shoddy in the engine bay as mentioned, and lots incorrect and missing. Do they have receipts and photos of the car before during and after? Looks like a car fixed up to sell, period. Has curb appeal. Proof that all the parts they list went into the car would help a lot!
I would say despite all these things IF it's solid and drives out nice it's probably a market buy in the very high 20's to the very low 30's. Actually, I could see it being fun for that amount.
Plug wires will last approximately 5 more miles where they are laying.
I would say despite all these things IF it's solid and drives out nice it's probably a market buy in the very high 20's to the very low 30's. Actually, I could see it being fun for that amount.
Plug wires will last approximately 5 more miles where they are laying.
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What we are talking about here is a difference in opinions.
I strongly believe that you should buy the BEST car that your budget can afford. In the long run you will be better off paying more up front for a better quality car (my opinion)
The way I see it, the Red car has been "run thru the mill", tons of mis matched parts.
The Green car is in the same "price range" mid thirty's. But, the Green car does not look nearly as cobbed up, plus it has 2 tops and factory air.
My point is...........in the future you can easily improve the Green car by adding a new paint job, but with the Red car you are stuck with all the non original parts unless you want to dig yourself into a huge financial hole.
Just my opinion
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Pro
I will go on to make the following statements in an attempt to HELP the OP.
What we are talking about here is a difference in opinions.
I strongly believe that you should buy the BEST car that your budget can afford. In the long run you will be better off paying more up front for a better quality car (my opinion)
The way I see it, the Red car has been "run thru the mill", tons of mis matched parts.
The Green car is in the same "price range" mid thirty's. But, the Green car does not look nearly as cobbed up, plus it has 2 tops and factory air.
My point is...........in the future you can easily improve the Green car by adding a new paint job, but with the Red car you are stuck with all the non original parts unless you want to dig yourself into a huge financial hole.
Just my opinion
What we are talking about here is a difference in opinions.
I strongly believe that you should buy the BEST car that your budget can afford. In the long run you will be better off paying more up front for a better quality car (my opinion)
The way I see it, the Red car has been "run thru the mill", tons of mis matched parts.
The Green car is in the same "price range" mid thirty's. But, the Green car does not look nearly as cobbed up, plus it has 2 tops and factory air.
My point is...........in the future you can easily improve the Green car by adding a new paint job, but with the Red car you are stuck with all the non original parts unless you want to dig yourself into a huge financial hole.
Just my opinion
#16
Le Mans Master
All good and valid points! I personally agree with you, BUT...all I was trying to say is if your not worried about originality, (and i think that is what he said)and you want a good looking driver that you wouldn't be embarrassed cruisin around in, this is not a bad looking car for the money. It all depends on inspection and how it is mechanically.
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