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Old 07-11-2012, 04:09 PM
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can a 65 be safely towed 200 miles with the front wheels on a tow dolly and manual tranny in neutral?
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Originally Posted by 365hipo
can a 65 be safely towed 200 miles with the front wheels on a tow dolly and manual tranny in neutral?
Absolutely.........but it's more fun with 4 wheels on the ground and under it's own power.

You could also "flat tow" with all wheels on the ground.

Restrictions on how to tow began with the automatic equipped cars and front wheel drive cars. Your Corvette is neither.

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some people might remove the drive shaft in case it goes into gear while being towed. i my self would never use a tow dolly
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Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.

I flat towed a four speed Nova from Atlanta to Louisville once but about every 50 miles, I started the engine and let it run while I towed it. Didn't seem to hurt a thing that way.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.
Doesn't the oil run to the back end due to the front being higher?
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.

I flat towed a four speed Nova from Atlanta to Louisville once but about every 50 miles, I started the engine and let it run while I towed it. Didn't seem to hurt a thing that way.
automatic yes, 4-speed no...
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.
That is my recollection as well...although this is what the C1 ST-12 manual says (and I imagine a '65 wouldn't be any different):
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.

I flat towed a four speed Nova from Atlanta to Louisville once but about every 50 miles, I started the engine and let it run while I towed it. Didn't seem to hurt a thing that way.
Mike:

I need to see (and read) that Owners Manual.....and meet the engineer (??) that wrote it.

I have NEVER put a towing restriction on a 3-speed or 4-speed manual box car. I guess it is a given that the car be in NEUTRAL and not in gear. If I have to tell someone this level of basic instruction, then the auto world is too far gone, and I need to withdraw.

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I would NOT do it. Even though the angle might be enough to get lube to the rear bearing, the only thing that moves lube to the front bearing on the mainshaft (the one in the center of the input shaft) is the rotation of the cluster gear. For that matter, the rotating cluster gear is how the rest of the gears that rotate ON the mainshaft get their lube as well. The cluster gear is driven by the input shaft so if the engine isn't running, you will have no lube to those bearings. If you MUST tow it that way, I would recommend stopping every few miles and running the engine for a few minutes. It would be MUCH safer to pull the driveshaft if you have to tow it with the rear wheels on the ground..

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I'm towing my '66 1,200 miles to Michigan in a few weeks, and there is no way I would tow it with any wheels on the ground. I have an enclosed featherlite but since you're only going a couple of hundred miles I'd rent a car hauler from Uhaul. Just my $0.02.
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Originally Posted by 67*427
If you MUST tow it that way, I would recommend stopping every few miles and running the engine for a few minutes.
Steve
would every 50 miles be adequate?
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Originally Posted by Powershift
Absolutely.........but it's more fun with 4 wheels on the ground and under it's own power.

You could also "flat tow" with all wheels on the ground.

Restrictions on how to tow began with the automatic equipped cars and front wheel drive cars. Your Corvette is neither.

Larry
use a trailer...2oo miles is too far unless you un hook the drive shaft, you will hurt the rear bushing, bearing and maybe the yoke too!.....trailer is much safer anyway.....
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Originally Posted by 365hipo
would every 50 miles be adequate?
See post #4.

In the meantime, I am far too lazy to walk to the garage and look at my owner's manual as I said before.

I am merely reporting what I think I remember Chevrolet recommending. If I was in the habit of constantly towing a bunch of junk around, I could give a better answer!

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Originally Posted by midyearvette
use a trailer...2oo miles is too far unless you un hook the drive shaft, you will hurt the rear bushing, bearing and maybe the yoke too!.....trailer is much safer anyway.....
Flat towed my 1969 AMX with 390 and 4 speed from New Orleans, Louisiana to Denver, Colorado without issues........maybe those AMC cars are more hardy.

but disconnecting the driveshaft removes any real or preceived issues.

Larry

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Originally Posted by 365hipo
would every 50 miles be adequate?
I'd hate to say "yes" and then see you have a problem. There is a lot of residual lube in the bearings so chances are that you wouldn't have a problem but if it were mine, I'd either trailer it or remove the driveshaft.

Here's another thought... if the car doesn't overheat while idling, you could just let it idle in neutral while you tow it. Then ALL the bearings are being lubricated and you can tow it as far as you like. I'd still stop often to make sure it was still running.

As was suggested, a UHaul trailer is not that much for one day and then you have no worries.

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Originally Posted by 67*427

Here's another thought... if the car doesn't overheat while idling, you could just let it idle in neutral while you tow it. Then ALL the bearings are being lubricated and you can tow it as far as you like. I'd still stop often to make sure it was still running.

Steve
great minds think alike, i was just going to add that...; especially with an automatic transmission..
Bill

ps: i've done exactly that
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Please consult your owner's manual!

I THINK you're not supposed to tow a four speed car more than a few miles without the engine running because you're not lubing the back end of the transmission with the engine off.

I flat towed a four speed Nova from Atlanta to Louisville once but about every 50 miles, I started the engine and let it run while I towed it. Didn't seem to hurt a thing that way.
My '65 owner's manual (p. 10, 365hipo) says to remove the driveshaft if you're going over 35 mph or over 50 miles. No mention of just for automatic trans.

I guess that makes sense for a manual. You're spinning the mainshaft and all the bearings on the mainshaft, but not the countershaft for splash lubrication...?

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Originally Posted by mashinter
My '65 owner's manual (p. 10, 365hipo) says to remove the driveshaft if you're going over 35 mph or over 50 miles. No mention of just for automatic trans.

I guess that makes sense for a manual. You're spinning the mainshaft and all the bearings on the mainshaft, but not the countershaft for splash lubrication...?
Makes sense to me.

I looked in a '63 owner's manual while ago. Limted speed and miles for an automatic. No mention of towing precautions with a manual. Four speeds were different between '63-'65 but the manuals were the same.
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Beg, borrow or steal a trailer..... You'll have peace of mind. Otherwise, you'll start hearing imaginary sounds coming from your transmission everytime you drive your car....
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Originally Posted by 365hipo
can a 65 be safely towed 200 miles with the front wheels on a tow dolly and manual tranny in neutral?
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