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Old 09-18-2012, 09:23 PM
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For a 67 I would like to know what are the differences. Ive looked and all I could find were the axle stubs.. (caps vs U bolts) Does this mean essentially you can make a big block rear out of a small block with just a stub change?
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Originally Posted by 69z28&ss396
For a 67 I would like to know what are the differences. Ive looked and all I could find were the axle stubs.. (caps vs U bolts) Does this mean essentially you can make a big block rear out of a small block with just a stub change?
Well the tapped differential yokes with the bolt on caps is the obvious change, but there also ratio stamps on the differential that would be specific only for a big block car. These would be AT, AU, AZ, FA, FB and FC codes. So a 1967 big block 4:11 rear would have an FB code, but if you have a 1967 corvette 4:11 diff with an AP code, then it came out of a small block car
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Originally Posted by Velox
Well the tapped differential yokes with the bolt on caps is the obvious change, but there also ratio stamps on the differential that would be specific only for a big block car. These would be AT, AU, AZ, FA, FB and FC codes. So a 1967 big block 4:11 rear would have an FB code, but if you have a 1967 corvette 4:11 diff with an AP code, then it came out of a small block car

Yes but that would not affect the performance which is what the OP is referencing..
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Originally Posted by Velox
Well the tapped differential yokes with the bolt on caps is the obvious change, but there also ratio stamps on the differential that would be specific only for a big block car. These would be AT, AU, AZ, FA, FB and FC codes. So a 1967 big block 4:11 rear would have an FB code, but if you have a 1967 corvette 4:11 diff with an AP code, then it came out of a small block car
IS that the only change? I dont care about numbers at all, its a tribute big block car for my late father.. 67 L71 coupe devils den color was his all time fav combo.. Im just slowly trying to aquire the hard to find parts..
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Yes but that would not affect the performance which is what the OP is referencing..
Correct, and I have a soft spot for makers..
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what is a devils den color combo? and any 65-79 rears are the same
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what is a devils den color combo? and any 65-79 rears are the same
Black with a red interior, and in this case a red stinger..
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Black with a red interior, and in this case a red stinger..
awe yes the most popular 67 BB color combo to be faked
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Darn right it'll b a fake.. Im 29 and trying to play an old mans game.. Im a poor man and parts are NOT cheap..
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Originally Posted by 69z28&ss396
Darn right it'll b a fake.. Im 29 and trying to play an old mans game.. Im a poor man and parts are NOT cheap..
I started to restore my 66 SS Chevelle when I was 20. you don't have to tell me I am playing in a old riches man game
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
I started to restore my 66 SS Chevelle when I was 20. you don't have to tell me I am playing in a old riches man game
At least you'll never see this one trying to be sold as a real one.. I know Ill have more money in it than its worth but I could care less about numbers, as long as it looks the part.. Keepin the GF happy is a hard bargain also.. Have one for me, and Ill do the same!!
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I found the FA stamped on the top of my fathers differential just yesterday. I thought they only stamped the differential codes on the stamp plate on the bottom, so i was surprised to find the F and the A clearly stamped into the top.
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Originally Posted by 69z28&ss396
For a 67 I would like to know what are the differences. Ive looked and all I could find were the axle stubs.. (caps vs U bolts) Does this mean essentially you can make a big block rear out of a small block with just a stub change?
You don't even need to change the side yokes - both will connect to the same 1350 u-joints on the half shafts.

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Originally Posted by larrywalk
You don't even need to change the side yokes - both will connect to the same 1350 u-joints on the half shafts.

Its all in what you want i guess..
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Originally Posted by 65silververt
I found the FA stamped on the top of my fathers differential just yesterday. I thought they only stamped the differential codes on the stamp plate on the bottom, so i was surprised to find the F and the A clearly stamped into the top.
Here's the top stamping off a carrier with an AU_2_28_67 bottom stamp [AU=BB 3.36 posi]; notice they ground a small area but almost missed it with the stamp. Not sure when this practice began or how long it lasted.



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Originally Posted by 69z28&ss396
Correct, and I have a soft spot for makers..

Yep that and Jim Beam Black Label are good for sipping.

This question about the yokes if all that is different on the stub axles is how the u-joint is mounted what great benefit is it to change to the BB stub axles? Most of the failures that I have seen here and on the internet revolve around the half shaft failing not the stub axle.

I have seen what appears to be the trailing arm stub axle used as a differential stub and the half shaft have the same half shaft connection.

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Originally Posted by Hitch
This question about the yokes if all that is different on the stub axles is how the u-joint is mounted what great benefit is it to change to the BB stub axles? Most of the failures that I have seen here and on the internet revolve around the half shaft failing not the stub axle.

I have seen what appears to be the trailing arm stub axle used as a differential stub and the half shaft have the same half shaft connection.

David
Theoretically, the bolted caps increase the torque capacity of the yoke vs. the U-bolts, but I don't know at what power level that becomes an issue; probably doesn't matter with stock tires.

Photo below shows what you may be talking about - Van Steel provided these flanged stub axles (and carbon fiber half-shafts) for the "King Ray" 572-powered '67 the late Jerry Clark built as a project car for "Corvette Enthusiast" magazine about six years ago.
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I know this is a custom, but did Chevy ever put a white stinger on a '67 Sunfire Yellow/white interior BB hood? I can't remember seeing one like this, I seem to remember black stingers with that color combo.
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Originally Posted by sub006
I know this is a custom, but did Chevy ever put a white stinger on a '67 Sunfire Yellow/white interior BB hood? I can't remember seeing one like this, I seem to remember black stingers with that color combo.
Nope, but Jerry liked it that way, and it was his car.



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