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Old 10-06-2012, 09:36 PM
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Just wondering, how much hp and tq can one get out of a 283 / 4 speed with a single 4bbl carb and still be able to run well on the street with 91 octane? What parts combos would you recomend?
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Well 315HP with fuel injection was the tops in '61...however I run 270HP with my 283ci with dual quads all day long and that's 9.5:1 compression ratio allowing me to run 87 octane. It has a Duntov 097 cam and is bored .030 over.
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They used to build road racing and drag racing 283 blocks to 400+ horsepower.
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Was the 400hp streetable? or is the 300hp range as far as you can go and still drive it around town / to shows?
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what would be the reason for wanting a 283? A guy in south america built a 370hp 283 because importing even a 350 was SO EXPENSIVE. He was very motivated and spent 400 HOURS on porting the cyl heads! Now years later he imported a 400 and is building a 406.

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We used to run a '61 Corvette at US30 Dragstrip in NW Indiana. With the engine bored over 0.030", heads CC'd and ported/polished to 11:1 compression ratio, single plane intake manifold and high performance cam .... about 400hp. If you don't go crazy with the camshaft you can still drive it on the street.
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Originally Posted by bmanz28
Just wondering, how much hp and tq can one get out of a 283 / 4 speed with a single 4bbl carb and still be able to run well on the street with 91 octane? What parts combos would you recomend?
Are you willing to use headers, a 750 vac secondary carb, a Performer RPM intake and either ported 2.02/1.60 heads or new 195cc aluminum heads?
You can easily get there with a high revving solid roller with high lift (estimate in .550-.575 range using the right ratio rocker arms) and durations in the 230-240 range on a 110-112 LSA. If so, then you should do better than 400 net flywheel.

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Originally Posted by bmanz28
Was the 400hp streetable? or is the 300hp range as far as you can go and still drive it around town / to shows?
Just as important as your base question is, what is your budget for this build? The answer to that can make a huge difference in the answer to your question.
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a 283 lacks torque. when i had a 283 i had to slip the clutch.
w/355 i just let the pedal up at 800 rpm and it pulls right out.
if the OP wants torque he needs cubes.
if he wants to rev it to 7000 he wants HP.
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No slipping of clutch since I put the Tremec in to get my 283ci (3.70 rear) rolling; even up inclines. So, not sure what that's about.

A stock 283ci is no 'barn burner' but can be beefed up to run with the big dogs to some extent. Having said that...it's easy to reach the 'tipping point' price-wise where you could have bought a crate motor, with a warranty, and saved a lot of anquish.
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my 1st gear is 2.20:1
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Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
my 1st gear is 2.20:1
Maybe your generator was pulling too hard to run those four cooling fans and pulled all the power away from moving the car?

283's came from the factory with 2.20 transmission gears as standard equipment. So did 265's.

Back then, they also had a three speed with a 2.94 first gear and if you had a 4.11 or 4.56 rear end, there weren't many street cars around that could beat you off the line and for the first couple hundred feet at least.

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The reason I was wondering was to keep the originallity of the car, but have a little more power. I might as well pull the motor, protect and store it and run a different motor/tranny setup, maybe a LS motor?
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Don't try to run 2.02 intake valves on a 283 (3 7/8" bore) without clearancing the top of the cylinders. 1.94s barely clear and then they are shrouded. The best heads for a hot 283 street engine today seem to be the 305 H.O. heads. The small (58cc) chambers will give you a good bump in compression and they flow pretty good for the engine size.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
Maybe your generator was pulling too hard to run those four cooling fans and pulled all the power away from moving the car?

283's came from the factory with 2.20 transmission gears as standard equipment. So did 265's.

Back then, they also had a three speed with a 2.94 first gear and if you had a 4.11 or 4.56 rear end, there weren't many street cars around that could beat you off the line and for the first couple hundred feet at least.
that was 1975 with a 3.36 rear. stock mech fan always on. I enjoyed the 283, but picked up a 350 shortblock for $50 and a set of slicks. put that in 1983. it got 20 mpg, same as the 283. I can't think of a single advantage to a 283.
Generator? U must be kidding? in 1975 it already was converted to an alt!

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Originally Posted by bmanz28
The reason I was wondering was to keep the originallity of the car, but have a little more power. I might as well pull the motor, protect and store it and run a different motor/tranny setup, maybe a LS motor?
A ZZ3/ZZ4 or 350 is pretty much a straight across swap and look more old school. Of you can do what Devildog/427Hotrod on here did and build a 500hp monster, still with the old Carter dual quads...that is nearly undetectable from a 283ci using Dart and other components.

Not sure an LSx is a simple swap...most I know that run them in older vettes do so on a restomod frame.
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my vote is to maintain the character of the car, period correct. Dual quads is way cool and makes +20hp over 1.
I like the simplicity of 1x4.
a 383 would work well with a 3.08 rear. no need for OD.
An LS conversion is just a poser. not a real one anymore
Just my opinion, don't get upset if u have one. it still looks nice.

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Okay, no LS motor!!
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Originally Posted by bmanz28
Okay, no LS motor!!
Good question already asked, so I'll ask again:

What's your budget?

Also: What characteristics are you looking to get with your build? Torque? Peak power RPM? Max RPM? Solid/hydraulic lifters? Headers?
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Mat, Not looking for a fight but I have a 283 and I like it. The car came with a 283 and I put some mods in mine and run 4:11's, no slipping the clutch.BILL.


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