C2 overheating and water is not flowing in or out of expansion tank
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C2 overheating and water is not flowing in or out of expansion tank
I have an overheating issue and the technician that is very good has checked everything.
Radiator temp is dropping 26 degrees from inlet to outlet on the radiator
But we just discovered that water is not pulling from the reservoir / expansion tank into the radiator. When we left some water out of the radiator it did not pull any water from the reservior / expansion tank to fill the radiator.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Radiator temp is dropping 26 degrees from inlet to outlet on the radiator
But we just discovered that water is not pulling from the reservoir / expansion tank into the radiator. When we left some water out of the radiator it did not pull any water from the reservior / expansion tank to fill the radiator.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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I think you need to start over. Drain the whole system, including the block drain plugs. Refill via the thermostat opening on the manifold. System should hold almost 4 gal. Bring it to operating temp and check the tank, top off as needed.
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I can see your problem immediately. Fire the "techy" guy and get a mechanic to fix your problem. Techs don't know anything about old cars.
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Sometimes its hard to fill the system because the thermostat stays closed and you THINK you have enuf coolant in!!!
I drill a small hole or 2 in the thermostat to let air escape for the initial fill. This is overkill, but it works. Of course, if you can run the car long enuf the thermo will open and then you can fill the tank up..MAKE SURE ITS FULL. May take a couple hot/cold cycles, just like a new car!!
Another possibility is a bad rad cap..seen that a lot on new cars.
So...to have flow the system has to be FULL...tank too
I drill a small hole or 2 in the thermostat to let air escape for the initial fill. This is overkill, but it works. Of course, if you can run the car long enuf the thermo will open and then you can fill the tank up..MAKE SURE ITS FULL. May take a couple hot/cold cycles, just like a new car!!
Another possibility is a bad rad cap..seen that a lot on new cars.
So...to have flow the system has to be FULL...tank too
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Paul
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Thanks for the ideas
Cap has been replaced, no leaks in the system, tank is just below half full when cold, system has been pressure tested, tstat has been replaced.
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
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Cap has been replaced, no leaks in the system, tank is just below half full when cold, system has been pressure tested, tstat has been replaced.
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
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Cap has been replaced, no leaks in the system, tank is just below half full when cold, system has been pressure tested, tstat has been replaced.
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
I have not had the fluid drained and refilled thru the tstat opening -- will do that tomorrow. It has been burped but will try that again!
Thanks you all very much - keep the ideas coming!
If you haver a brass replacement radiator, this could be a problem.
What radiator are you running now, and does the vent line have coolant flow through it?? Check this with the expansion/radiator cap off on a cool engine. Check this as the engine warms up and the thermostat opens.
Larry
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take the cap off, pull the vent hose to the tank hose off at the tank and put the end in a can or point it somewhere that it won't be a problem, then briefly start the engine and see if there is flow.
Bill
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YOU WON'T SEE FLOW IF THE RESERVOIR IS AT NORMAL FLUID HEIGHT!!!
Drain some coolant until the fluid level is about 1" in the reservoir. Once the thermostat opens, you'll P L A I N L Y see fluid flow in from the small hose out of the radiator on the side of the reserve tank, and out the bottom to the heater and water pump.
You might ignore this advice. You should listen, in spite of where it;'s coming from.
Drain some coolant until the fluid level is about 1" in the reservoir. Once the thermostat opens, you'll P L A I N L Y see fluid flow in from the small hose out of the radiator on the side of the reserve tank, and out the bottom to the heater and water pump.
You might ignore this advice. You should listen, in spite of where it;'s coming from.
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Not resolved yet but still working on it
Radiator cap was checked and is fine - system holds pressure - have not looked for flow in a tank that is only 10% full, will do that next.
New Griffin Radiator was put in before the engine was rebuilt 3-4 years ago and the overheating issue has been a problem since the rebuild.
Shroud is sealed for good air flow.
Thermostat was replace and engine was run without a thermostat or cap on the tank, to get any air out of the system.
Heat gun shows radiator inlet temp about 250 and outlet about 220.
New Griffin Radiator was put in before the engine was rebuilt 3-4 years ago and the overheating issue has been a problem since the rebuild.
Shroud is sealed for good air flow.
Thermostat was replace and engine was run without a thermostat or cap on the tank, to get any air out of the system.
Heat gun shows radiator inlet temp about 250 and outlet about 220.
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Your radiator inlet temp (250*F) is 50*-70* higher than normal, driven by the water pump inlet temp of 220*F.; your radiator isn't doing its job.
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