rtruman

What are you guys with Small blocks and original Carbs doing
with treatment to help with contamination during the cold weather
till spring. I am breaking a new 300 HP with original 461 heads and a
stepped up cam ,I added the Ethanol treatment from Lucas but reading about it some treatments like Star Tron says be carful what treatment you use that may contain alcohol. Doesn't Octain booster contain
alcohol.

Frankie the Fink

Contamination from what ?

I have two Corvettes; one with dual quads, the other with a single and don't add anything; drive on 87 octane ethanol 24x7x365. My carbureated boat (stored outside all winter) runs on the same gas and gets a little Sta-Bil each year (and yes you can get several days in a row with temps in the 20s down here). That's it.

You'll drive yourself nuts with the Snake Oil additives.

wmf62

Stabil or Marvel Mystery Oil; forget the octane bosster stuff...
Bill

MikeM

What does "ethanol treatment" do and how does it work?

TheGanzman

My '67 327/350 L79 absolutely MUST have SOMETHING - just the way it is. All the usual tuneup stuff, Quick Fuel carb, Cool Carb heat plate, etc. - plus mine is an original TI car too. I run Torco Fuel Accelerator - 16 ounces/fill-up; my research indicates that this seems to be the best, least intrusive product - it ain't cheap though...

Mike Ward

Since ethanol IS alcohol, I wonder why adding MORE alcohol is good if alcohol is bad.

Many of us here have been using E10 fuel for years or decades. In my case, over 20 years. No one has yet reported any storage problems with old Corvettes. Only some guys in FL or Gulf states seem to have operational problems.

No snake oil additives required.

azmusclecar

Bill,

Not to steal this thread but what is so good about Marvel Mystery Oil?


I know it's been around forever and a day but, what is the benefit from adding it?????????????

I ask this hoping you're not a stock holder just trying to up your 401K

You can PM me if you don't wish to post your reply here. And now back to our regularly scheduled thread of snake oil.......

rtruman

What we need to know about Ethanol blended fuel
Debris in fuel
gums rapidity in fuel tank and delivery systems as ethanol ages
ethanol fuels break down quickly, fuel loses octane and becomes
stale hard starts, pinging, knocks
Star Tron is a powerful fuel stabilizer to help to stop fuel breakdown.
also say This stuff breaks apart large clusters of fuel molecules
creating more surface area this allows additional
co2to react during combustion keeping carbuators clean -www.startron.com That's how they say this stuff works

Frankie the Fink

Cut and paste from some advertising hype.

Just send me the money each week you would normally spend on this stuff and I will immediately send you an email stating, "Everything is OK!".

The effect on your wallet and mental health will be the same and your car won't know the difference...

Mike Ward

Whaaaat?

Side question- why do you believe you need an octane booster of any type?

MikeM

FWIW, ethanol will hold only so much water and then it will fall out of suspension in your tank. What settles to the bottom, your engine won't run on. The next layer up is a mixture of water, alcohol and gasoline. Your engine will run on this mixture but not really well. The top layer is fine to run on as it's pure gasoline but has now lost the octane additive of the alcohol because the weight of the water mixed with the alcohol has pulled it out of suspension with the gasoline.

I don't believe there is any known chemical additive to reconstitute gasoline that has suffered "phase separation" as explained above.

The best thing to do, (and the cheapest) is to keep water out of gasoline to start with and if you have doubts about yours, drain a quart or so out in a clear jar and let it stand for and hour or so. If it's clear, top to bottom, you have nothing to worry about. If it's dark and/or cloudy or you can see distinct layers, throw it away. You can't save it.

There is no reason to expect gasoline that has sat in a sealed tank over the winter not to be perfectly good and usable six months later. But problems can start if you leave the container unsealed and open to atmosphere.

JohnZ

Hogwash! Can't imagine that anyone really believes this stuff. You don't need "octane booster" either.

MikeM

That summary sounds like it was taken from Startron's web site.

jmschmit

Just use NON ETHANOL gas, you will not have any problems.BILL.

MikeM

Non ethanol gas with water in it has many of the same negatives that ethanol gas with water in it does does but one difference is, you water is constantly being absorbed everytime you replenish the gas used out of your tank. Regular gas, the water just keeps increasing until a slug of it goes through your carb and kills the engine.

Anybody here that is old enough to remember leaded gas might tell you that it was the greatest stuff going. Others will tell you lead is the worst possible thing they ever put in gasoline. Then there was unleaded gasoline. Dire predictions of the end of the world. And now, the non-performing and incompetent mechanics and the carnival snake oli hawkers have E 10 to kick around. Wonder what's next?

Mike Ward

The sky will fall, again.

rtruman

These people say on separation it lays on the bottom of the tank and when it burns it damages engine parts and is partially combustible which can lead to engine damage .
\all I wanted to know if other people have this problem I live in Delaware and Ethanol is in the Gas .
Purchased a new lawn mower and the mechanic showed me what
Ethanol does to engine parts I said I have a corvette engine I am breaking in he said gas these days breaks down a lot quicker
due to the 10% Ethanol the parts were all black and gummy.

cv67

Dont even worry about it.
I let mine sit for months at a time unfortunately stale gas or not it drives fine (11.5:1) I just dont hammer on the right pedal til I get some good stuff in it.
If anything it makes good week killer lol

Mike Ward

The only people that will tell you it causes problem are those that have no real experience but just want to look smart or those who want to find a way to lighten your wallet.

Again- over 20 years experience here, never a problem.

Forget what people tell you about their boats, weedwackers, lawmowers etc. They've ALWAYS had problems. That's why they invented Seafoam in the 30's, long before ethanol.

wmf62

i don't think there is anything magic about MMO, but i do believe MMO's claim that it acts as a solvent/lubricator when used in the oil and as a solvent/lubricator/stabilizer when used in the fuel.

can't prove it, just think it...

http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/inde...site/faq/#fuel
Bill