Gangle

All,

I am currently restoring my 64 I have the Hurst shifter on there now and have the original in a box which I would like to put back on.

My question is why where they ever switched? I am not from that era so I do not know if it was done for looks or for performance. I have not had a chance to drive one with original shifter in it so I don't know the difference. I am assuming the Hurst has a shorter and faster throw. I would like to put the original back on and just wondering the pros and cons of going back to the original.

I will be beating it up a little but not going for any time sheets I will not need the throw to be race ready

Thanks,
Tom

6T5RUSH

Gangle,

Think you've talked yourself into installing the original shifter. For how you've explained how you are going to use it, the stock shifter will work fine. The stock shifter rods do have a shorter throw setting...set of holes (will require a little more pull/push on your part) in the levers to satisfy the speed shifting.

Me, I pulled my stock shifter, sold it and installed a Hurst Competition Plus shifter. Had that in the car for 8 years 'till I pulled the Muncie with that shifter and installed a Keisler SS700. While I had the Muncie, I enjoyed quick, precise shifting. I thought it was an improvement to the stock shifter.

Just my experience.

Jim
In God We Trust!

azmusclecar

Jim,

Are you sure the 64s had the shifter rod selection holes? I have a 64 and I researched it and I came way with the info the stock 64 did Not have the choice.

I have been wrong before and being wrong again is nothing new, I just wanted to throw this in to make sure the OP has the correct info.

If I'm wrong I can always delete this post so not to interfere with this thread. I thought better to post and know than not post and not know.

You've made a lot of valuable posts to some of my threads Jim.

DZAUTO

Everything I own (with a Muncie) has a Hurst shifter with a replica handle. Best of both worlds----------function and appearance.

Well, that's not quite correct. My 51 Chevy was not available with a Muncie, so it has a Hurst handle.

6T5RUSH

azmusclecar,

Well, since mine is a '65, it did come from the factory with 2 sets of holes on the levers (M20 wide ratio Muncie).

Perhaps more knowledgeable '64 owners can chime in here on whether they have a choice on their stock shifter levers.

Maybe the OP can look at the factory levers to the factory shifter he has and see if these 2 sets of holes exist.

Jim
In God We Trust!

36couper

I asked a somewhat similar question a while ago. I noticed with the stock shifter there is an annoying rattle in the shift handle itself. More noticeable at higher RPM.
Apparently this is a common problem with the stock shifter. If I recall correctly, the remedy was to put an elastic band around the shifter itself.

Switching to the Hurst shifter eliminates the problem altogether.

I did that and it cleared up the problem but it still rattles a bit.
Maybe others can comment on this rattling problem and solution

Gangle

Jim,

I checked the stock shifter I only see one hole for the lever. The Hurst shifter has two . I also checked the AIM booklet but that doesn't always give you the best pictures, couldn't make anything out from it.

Thanks

Gangle

DZ

I can swap my original lever onto the Hurst?

mstanton

Your original lever won't work. But the below will bolt on. Gives the look of stock with the hurst shifter.

http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductDetails/ProductDetails.aspx?pid={adfe4662-bd4b-4521-9a99-bbaa868ab57e}&gid={1c173ee9-4f27-4626-86a6-9132de3cc65e}&GroupName=OE-style+Shifter+Shafts&pname=64-67+4-spd+Bolt-On+Shifter+Shaft&Referer=&Alias=&ptct=SG R-SR&CTitle=&

Blk63Vette

Hello

I bought and "old school" HURST shifter that was made for the 1964 to 67 Corvettes...George HURST was a genius. He also invented the Jaws of life...He a hero in my book!

Ironcross

George Hurst offered to install one in my 62 Vette one year at the US Nationals....I never went over to get it. I personally don't care for them .....And in my Dads parts store we sold them......the rattle in the OE shifter I believe can be fixed with the application of a stock spring.....I hate the Hurst in my 67 Camaro....

My opinion is to put the GM shifter back in the car....

Bluestripe67

Between the rattle and the missed shifts sometimes, I put my Hurst Competition Plus in 25 years/90K miles ago and love the very precise and solid shifts. Dennis

65GGvert

I also dislike the Hurst and prefer the rattle of the stock shifter to the lack of reverse lock out and the amount of pressure it takes to get over to the reverse slot. The stock Muncie is smooth and easy and I enjoy the feel of it dropping into gear. I don't race it, by the way.

JohnZ

The two holes in the trans shift levers (to accommodate the optional "short-throw" shift pattern) didn't start until 1965. I also prefer the factory Muncie shifter, set for short throw.

rayvaflav

The Hurst shifter is much more precise and could knock a good 0.3 seconds off of your 1/4 mile time. I will happily take the 0.5 second handicap and row though my OEM Muncie "clunk-clunk" shifter. I dunno why, I've always liked the feel and function of that old crazy-*** shifter.

Ray

Blue 396

put in a Hurst Comp + when I bought the car in 1970 took it out in 1991, did the NCRS thing for a few years, started driving it again in 1994 took out the factory shifter and put the Hurst back in the car. I've used Hurst in all my 4-speed applications for 40+ years

Plasticman

I broke off the handle of my daily driven 70 Vette stock Muncie shifter. Luckily it was on my way home, and it broke off going into 3rd.......

You would have to be a very stout person to do that on a Hurst.

Have used Hurst ever since.

Plasticman

Kerrmudgeon

I wonder how many times this topic has been discussed on this forum? It's got to be at least once a year I think. Check the search function to get your fill of opinions.

sub006

This is one of those "chocolate or vanilla" questions. George Hurst and Zora Arkus-Duntov were BOTH geniuses.

Try both of their products and take your choice. If you change your mind, you can go back with no harm done.

Frankie the Fink

My SWC has a Hurst competition shifter on the original Muncie (I have the receipts for the prev owner having it installed). I like it and its not going anywhere.