mashinter

That looks familiar. I'm running the black one in the Corvette Club of Michigan drags.

Donny Brass

No pics yet but it's in the booth

Donny Brass

Might not need the loaner........ but my hired camera man says he will drive for you Rick

Kerrmudgeon

Shame to ding up that new paint Donnie, looks great. How long from start to finish time wise? Seems really fast.
Same drive train? :

Donny Brass

it would be a shame not to...........

same drive train, and it's been in the shop about 90 weekdays.........

ricks327

Donny,
I'm going to guess your photographer is your son and I believe his reaction time is a tad better than yours.
Car is looking great and besides being the quickest small block midyear, yours will look the best.
See you in Stanton,
Rick

P.S. My car is a turd compared to yours.

Donny Brass

Rick, it does not matter what the car runs, it only matters that you are grinning as the lights come down.

bring that car to Stanton, we will get what we can out of it, and then laugh, eat BBQ, and consume a few barley pops......

Westlotorn

It is looking great Donny.

65tripleblack

Looks deeeeeep.

Donny Brass

I will see you there ...... and nothing has been decided

BB767

"...and nothing has been decided." I'm pretty sure it has been Donny but if you think shinny paint will make a difference, I'll see you in the staging lanes at Stanton! If case you've forgotten this is what the Chevy II looks like..



...from inside your Corvette.

Best of luck to you my friend.

Thomas

MarkC

Tell us about your Chevy II, best ET, speed, engine and weight. Thanks

Donny Brass

In this corner:

1966 Chevy II 327 / 350 4 speed 4.56 gears

fighting weight is 3122 pounds with driver 311 rwhp

12.91 @ 108.52

and in the other corner:

1966 Corvette 327/350 4 speed 4.56 gears

fighting weight is 3272 pounds with driver 293 rwhp

12.92 @ 105.54

65tripleblack

Hey Donny. Ever come East? I'd be happy to have a real pro drive my car and see what it can do.
Prolly get it into the elevens on street tires.

MarkC

So the difference in the power is in the exhaust?

Westlotorn

Sounds like one 327/350 is less STOCK than the other 327/350. I used to see a lot of the mods people did in these classes to be STOCK and win. The most creative I ever saw was a fast 440 Dodge Challenger. The engine was actually a modified 400 Dodge with the front of a 440 welded to it. The 400 was lighter and the internals modified to make 440 cubic inches made power faster than a real 440. But it raced as a Stock car of course. Some push the envelope much more than others in the Stock classes.
That Challenger ran 129 MPH in the qtr but passed Tech inspections for the NHRA.
When the MPH goes up they are making more horsepower some how.
The Vette is really looking great Donny, I hope you make the race.

Donny Brass

I can't agree with this at all. 6% difference in power will well within tolerance. Add to that, I have been hammering that short block and heads for over a decade.... I am sure it's getting a little tired.

Thomas is a friend with whom I enjoy a terrific rivalry. And when ( not if ) I find a few more ponies, he'll be the first to congratulate me.

Westlotorn

No intention to insult either of you Donny, just reporting what I saw go on in the engine shops. There were many ways to massage the internals for more power and be pretty close to the rules. The 440 mentioned was way off the charts for bending rules but it was really fast and looked and measured stock.
The common items,
Off set grinding the crank and running 30 or 40 under bearings to add a couple cubes.
Back cutting the piston rings to reduce tension and friction.
Massaging the intake manifolds, some even cut them in half work the runners and weld them back up.
Re Grinding the camshafts so they have stock profiles but the duration is changed.
Reverse mounting pistons so the thrust face is on the non thrust side, supposed to reduce side load in the block, helps with high RPM power.
Acid dipping fenders and bumpers to reduce weight and then adding the weight over the rear tires.
One Camaro I remember the fenders were so light you could flex the steel with one finger.
Maybe the Pure Stock guys don't play these games but I have seen them all done.

Keep up the great work, your car is looking great. Did you have a lot of stress cracks in the glass from all the racing?

Dberghorn

Looks like you will be happy when it's all done and back in your garage. Looking good....

BB767

That we do, don't we Donny. Those of us that Pure Stock race started competing because of the cars but come back year after year because of the friendships we've developed along the way. I have the utmost respect for Donny as he well knows.


Ways to skirt the rules are well known to everyone. That's why on occasion a racer who appears with a car that falls outside the "norms" of what that particular car should be running is invited to a "heavy tech" session where the car is highly scrutinized. As for myself, all of the above that you suggest is for someone who has waaaay too much money and time on their hands and the race organizers are well tuned into that type of mischief.



There are no awards or prize money to any of the winners of any sort in Pure Stock racing. Zero, zip, 'nadda. We're racing our cars strictly for fun, not even a cheesy plastic trophy. The fastest car gets the same as the slowest car.....nothing. If our cars run faster then we're just paired up against a car with similar times. There's no advantage.


In the above link to a youtube clip, I'm running a 12.93 @ 109.26 against a '69 Chevelle 396/375 but as Donny mentioned I've run a 12.91 @ 108.52.



The car is a Chevy II, Series 100, 2 door post and is a radio, heater delete car. The Series 100's were the bottom rung of the Chevy II line but could be optioned with an L79 engine making for an ideal, light weight drag racing car.

What's interesting is that Donny and I both run 1966 Chevrolet 4 speed products with L79 engines that on any given day run remarkably similar ET times. That makes for extremely close and fun racing. His car is a beautiful chick magnet looking oh- so fine, while mine, I'm not sure even a librarian would swoon over it. Such is life. Come see us racing at Stanton Michigan, September 12-13th. It's the most fun you can have in your car with your clothes on!

Thomas