Synthetic in C-2
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Synthetic in C-2
Not sure if this has been brought up before but I bought Mobile 1 Synthetic on sale and put it in my 64, 327/365. I have maybe put 50 miles on it and now I have been told to get ride of the synthetic because it really doesn't do anything for an old engine and plus, being so thin, it has a tendency to leak past seals and gaskets much easier. Should I leave it in or dump it and put the dino (Quaker State 10w-30) oil in it.
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Not sure if this has been brought up before but I bought Mobile 1 Synthetic on sale and put it in my 64, 327/365. I have maybe put 50 miles on it and now I have been told to get ride of the synthetic because it really doesn't do anything for an old engine and plus, being so thin, it has a tendency to leak past seals and gaskets much easier. Should I leave it in or dump it and put the dino (Quaker State 10w-30) oil in it.
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If I bought it from you, I'd dump it and run Shell Rotella (CJ4).
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If this is a new engine I would get rid of the synthetic, since it will prevent the engine from breaking in. I use the 10w 30 Rotella with a break in additive for the first 500 miles before changing it back to the 10w 30 with out the additive.
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I seem to recall reading that the new synthetic oil in an old engine causing seals to fail is not accurate, but what do I know?
I would be more concerned about the amount (lack?) of zinc if you have solid lifters (365hp), and possibly not breaking in well.
I would be more concerned about the amount (lack?) of zinc if you have solid lifters (365hp), and possibly not breaking in well.
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Yes its been discussed a million times. You need to run an oil with zinc in it. Any diesel oil marked CJ4 or vintage type oil like Brad Penn. If you dont, you run the risk of your cam going flat. I know of several guys whom this has happened to.
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I have Mobil 1 Synthetic 15W-50 in my '67 L79. I order it online from Wal-Mart and pick it up at the store for $22.66 for a 5 quart jug.
The Shell Rotella CJ4 oil appears to be more expensive but my car still has its original engine so I have an open mind on this and could be convinced to change if I'm risking harm to my engine.
-- Steve
The Shell Rotella CJ4 oil appears to be more expensive but my car still has its original engine so I have an open mind on this and could be convinced to change if I'm risking harm to my engine.
-- Steve
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You are not risking harm, you are DOING harm to your engine. I dont know why its so hard to convince people to spend $25 more a year to protect a $50,000 piece of equipment/investment
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Where have I gone wrong in my thinking?
Thanks,
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There is such a thing as too much ZDDP, though. At too high a level, an obscure form of corrosion begins to occur. (No, I don't know how much is "too much".)
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See the car in my avatar? All it's ever had in its engine is synthetic. Never a problem with breaking in the engine.
Break in procedure consists of 50 miles of medium speed driving followed by an oil change. Then it's wide-open-throttle racing after that.
Regular analysis of oil samples have consistently confirmed the internal health of the engine.
Jim
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[QUOTE=RatDog;1587728800]I certainly don't have a problem paying more for oil. However, I thought the Mobil 1 with 1,200-1,300 ZDDP was a proper choice.
According to The Mobil website, the only product that has 1200 ppm is Mobil 1 15W50.....if thats what you are running then you are fine.
Boyan
According to The Mobil website, the only product that has 1200 ppm is Mobil 1 15W50.....if thats what you are running then you are fine.
Boyan
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I run Mobil 1 15W-50W and have for near 10 years now in the '61 and its in the new '63 too...its a special formulation for flat tappet cars. It will not harm your engine and has the appropriate amount of ZDDP.
Synthetic oil will NOT make your car "leak more".
Don't listen to all the horsepoo.
Synthetic oil will NOT make your car "leak more".
Don't listen to all the horsepoo.
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I run Amsoil ZRod, it's loaded with ZDDP. In fact I will be ordering some shortly. I was talking to the Joe Gibbs guys at Carlisle and they have some really good oil for both the LS engines as well as the flat tappet engines. I may switch to Joe Gibbs LS30 for my Z06.
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I like the idea of the storage protection additive in their Hot Rod oil.