wxk122

Loren Lundberg

Thank you for the additional information

I really do not mind how you characterise me as long as all the information comes out

Best wishes

Bill Keogh

TCracingCA

I just need to locate that ice racing photo!

robert miller

funny and sad at the same time if that makes any sense.Robert

wxk122

I was advised today by the person who I will not name that has the


"the engine # (there were several) the GM Engineering # and the non confirmed vin#.
Also, it's approximate present location. I do not wish to share this information at his time."

THEREFORE MY INVOLVEMENT IN MATTER IS NOW FINISHED SINCE MY ONLY CONCERN WAS TO DETERMINE THAT CAR WAS STILL IN EXISTENCE

desertpilgrim

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the NY Motorama was PRIOR to the San Francisco Motorama; another LITTLE detail is that NO VINs appeared on blocks until 1960....your base of information seems to show gaaaaaaaaaaps......

wxk122

Loren Lundberg

I did not intend to post another post on this thread but :

I already noted what you indicated

1956 Motorama shows

i.e.
1956 the Motorama also traveled to New York (i.e. Jan 19-24) Miami, (i.e. Feb 4-12) Los Angeles,(i.e. March 3-11)

San Francisco(i.e. March 21-April1)

wxk122

Loren Lundberg

See my post to this thread #2 earlier where I pointed out 1956 Motorama dates etc

Seems like least you could do is change your Big No to a big Yes

Engine Stamping
Engine stampings evolved in the early years of the Chevrolet V8 engine. In 1955-56, it was simply a continuous serial number, but one that didn’t match the serial number of the Corvette. It was then followed with F for Flint, where the Corvette engine was manufactured and then the year (F55 or F56). The final two letters indicated the original application of the engine. Application Codes usually indicated engine size, type of fuel delivery (Injection or carburetion) and transmission. As engine options grew, so did the number of application suffix codes. In 1957, the serial number was dropped and instead the stamp contained the letter F for Flint, a three to four number sequence for month and day of assembly and then the two letter engine suffix code. Beginning in 1960 the stamp included the serial number of the car it was installed in.


Have fun bugging someone else for a while

Best wishes

Bill Keogh

wxk122

See attached copy of the Dr. Dick Thompson after the race with the severe damage incurred by the 1956 Corvette at the
9.9.1956
-National Championship Road America Endurance Races
6 hour race
The car finished the race however coming in last place 19th but in C/P class 4th place
As we can see front nose rippred off back to radiator as well as right side fender. Hood still there and windshield frame intack so no apparent rollover
The pictures and newspaper article are from: Sheboygan Press for Sept. 10, 1956
One can see from the picture how David R Bartush would have obtained the knocked off nose piece after the race (note: he still has it today)

Per Dave Bartush:
I am reasonably certain the car was returned to the GM Tech Center after Elkhart

The car Dick Thompson used for the remaining 1956 SCCA championship car was a different car;

Per Dave Bartush:
Dick Thompson borrowed the number 106 car that was owned by Bob D old Livio and race or brown. That's the car he raced at Palm Springs in the fall not his original car. It was all legal in those days.
I am reasonably certain the car was returned to the GM Tech Center after Elkhart




Bill Keogh

Mailbu Beach

Loren...

Have you considered the red 56, Ivan pulled from the scrap yard.

Joe

wxk122

Joe

Excuse my ignorance but I am not familiar with "ivan" or the red corvette pulled from the scrapyard

Could you enlighten me???

Would this scrap yard any chance refer to the much publicized :
Warhoops.; Located in Sterling Heights, Michigan,

If not who was Ivan and were was scrap yard that he pulled 1956 Corvette from? Was it in Michigan ??

Thanks for any information

Best wishes

Bill Keogh

wxk122

Re: Ivan

Are you referring to :

Long Forgotten Corvette Collection Rediscovered - Page …
restomods.com/forgotten-corvette-collection-rediscovered-256/2
Must see images of a forgotten collection of Chevrolet Corvettes have been ... 1956Corvette covered in ... 60 seconds nomad mark 2 chicago jaguar ian callum


(note: the 1956 Corvette in this case was all intact and blue one )


Bill Keogh

wxk122

Joe

Are you referringb to the "red backup Corvette " car (i.e. beside the rough unrestored 1957 Motorama Corvette) shown in the garage in rough unrestored condition in the Corvette Forum article on the 1957 Corvette Motorama car in unrestored condition showing pictures of the unrestored 1957 Motorama car. The red backup car has regular windshield etc like stock Corvette.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...per-sport.html


What is most interesting to me is that the 1957 Motiorama Corvette
is: per the Replies in the Corvette Forum article

It is actually a 1956 Corvette that was customized by the Chevrolet Styling Department in late '56 for the show scene and allegedly to debut fuel injection for the production '57's. Styling took '56 # E56S101589 and re-tagged it as a '57, E57S001589. Note they changed the 5th digit from a one to a zero, so that the number would not conflict with the production '57 #1589.
After the shows it attended, it went to Dick Doane Chevrolet in Detroit. It was then sold to a dealer in Albuquerque, NM.(old poor quality news print below). The dealer sold it to a private party in NM, then was crashed some time later. It then went to a junk yard and was later sold to a local who held it for many years. Years later it was purchased then restored.

With : Total 1956 Corvettes Built - 3,467 - All Convertibles

QUESTION: WHY WOULD GM HAVE taken such an early 1956 Corvette
to customize for the 1957 Motorama car

Could the 1956 Corvette they chose be the one of the earlier year 1956 Corvette Motorama show cars that they had kicking around

Mailbu Beach

Sorry I do not have the answers to your questions. There is a 1956 chassis with big brakes and a few unique parts purchased by well known collectors from Ivan in California. The history of it is TBD.

The Supersport car is restored and news concerning it should surface soon.

Joe

wxk122

Joe

When you refer to Ivan I assume you mean Ivan Bailey

I was one of a handful of Canadian member’s in the late 1960’s of the :
the Vintage Corvette Club of America (VCCoA).and its the “Blue Flame Special”,newsletter

So I assume when you refer to Ivan you mean
legendary Corvette collector and parts supplier Ivan Bailey, who was part of initial membership of the club run by Ed Thiebaud, a turkey farmer in Fresno, California, who liked to fly airplanes and collect Corvettes and Corvette parts

ttp://www.ncrs.org/ | National Corvette Restorers Society
www.ncrs.org/home/ncrs-history.php Cached
National Corvette Restorers Society dedicated ... fly airplanes and collect Corvettes andCorvette parts. ... Jorjorian, Mike McCagh, Jan Hyde, Ivan Bailey, ...

1957 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible - The Hamptons Auto Classic
www.gplatti.com/hamp_auto/57_corvette.html Cached
Corvette would get better and better for another two generations. Not ... legendaryCorvette collector and parts supplier Ivan Bailey, were clear from

Best Wishes


Bill Keogh

wxk122

QUESTION: WHY WOULD GM HAVE taken such an early 1956 Corvette
to customize for the 1957 Motorama car

SINCE THE DR> DICK THOMPSON CAR WENT BACK TO DETROIT AND THE FRONR BODY HAD BEEN ALL WRECKED THE STYLING STUDIO DECIDED TO USE THE FORMER Dr> Dick Thompson car (i.e. former MOtorama car turned in to race car to put the 1957 Motorama Car Body on

Is their a possibility in terms of time sequence thsat the Dr.Dick Thompson car could have been :
VIN # E56S101589

GM Heritage centre has no records of the Vin#,s of the 1956 Corvette Motorama cars but maybe they have a build order data on the 1957 Corvette Motorama car I will ask

Gm heritage site

Jim Vehko
General Motors Heritage Center
6400 Center Drive
Sterling Heights, MI 48312
(586) 276-0694
Jim.vehko@gm.com

best wishes

Bill Keogh

Mailbu Beach

Correct...

wxk122

I got reply from GM Heritage Center :

My Question to them:
Was the 1957 Corvette Motorama car possibly built on the Dr.Dick Thompson 1956 Corvette race car (i.e. formar Oakland/San Fransisco Motorama car)
Since :It is actually a 1956 Corvette that was customized by the Chevrolet Styling Department in late '56 for the show scene and allegedly to debut fuel injection for the production '57's. Styling took '56 # E56S101589 and re-tagged it as a '57, E57S001589.
GM Heritage centre has no records of the Vin#,s of the 1956 Corvette Motorama cars but maybe they have a build order data on the 1957 Corvette Motorama car

THe Reply :
William,
As we said before. We don’t have the records and we don’t know.

Jim Vehko
General Motors Heritage Center
6400 Center Drive
Sterling Heights, MI 48312
(586) 276-0694
Jim.vehko@gm.com

desertpilgrim

Joe:
A few years back (at Bloomington?) the Ivan Bailey car was being "campaigned" by its then dealer/owner as the Dick Jess car to a prominent collector on the East Coast. He asked and in return, I asked about the VIN which turned out to be in the 3000 range, which is much too late for the Jess car. I have not heard of the car since, which is kind of strange - the chassis was interestingly turned out. Somebody must have stepped up......

Mailbu Beach

Now that you mention it I do recall it was a later vin. It was very interesting. Joe have pictures somewhere. It was on display at my friends tent at Bloomington. I thought it was part of the big purchase made from Ivan. By the S. Brothers. But maybe it was the Chicago dealer.