Zoomin

Uhh, not so fast on the clock my friend. Does the second hand sweep smoothly or does it pause between seconds? If its smooth, it's been converted to quartz and someone may try to ding you 25 points. Don't let them do it. It's a fail for PV but not in Flight Ops.

65hihp

Van
if the clock is smooth running (rather than ticking) it is full 25 pt deduct, and you cannot prevent that short of changing the works before the meet. I wouldn't bother.
Van, take your granddaughter to the meet, she will really enjoy watching the judges swarming over it and under it. It's different than show judging. And, if you tend to win car show awards, don't be surprised if your car loses points for paint in NCRS judging. Original St. Louis paint finish was not show car finish, and show paint usually does not fare well in flight judging. Don't sweat it though. Your car will do very well overall. We can tell that just from looking at it here. Good luck,

ricks327

Zoomin, are you sure? Once again, it's been a long time since I had my car judged and I think I lost 25 points on my quartz clock.
Rick

leif.anderson93

Beautiful '67!! You will do very well. As others have suggested, relax and enjoy the experience. The judges are as passionate about these cars as you are...they are there to help you make your car better. Having just had my car judged last month, on the OP side...I thought I had it all covered...one of my backup lights failed to light (it did when I got back home...go figure), be sure your door lock unlocks counterclockwise on the driver's side and clockwise on the passenger side (mine were just the opposite). Above all...enjoy the event and the great members.

Capt Van

My granddaughter is a true gear head, when she was 10 she helped me rebuild one of the carbs for my 60 (and between you and me it is going to be hers one day. My plan is to tell her that her and I are going to restore it for Karen her Nana, Nana will give her the keys when she graduates, can't wait to start the project with her).

She will be at the event with me and trying to hang with the judges

Nans and the 60



How many 12 year old kids wipe off the tools and put them where they belong...every time?

She got the bug when she showed my S.O.B. car at a local show and won when she was 8 or 9!

Capt Van

She is. She has MS and can no longer work as a county sheriff, just sad. She is really a very good person. Made my day to have her take it to an event that raised money for her cause. She had a great day and did a bad *** smokey burn out when it was over...and the crowd went wild

Zoomin

I had the 25 point deduction marked against me just last month. I went to a judging seminar where a power point presentation was given that said quartz was a 25 pt deduct too. It's asinine that a quartz movement should cost that many points, so I went and asked the team lead to learn more about why that is so aggregious. He said the judges were wrong to do so and corrected my score sheet, gave me all 25 PTS back and said it wouldn't fly in PV but does in Flight Ops.

When you look at point deductions for other items, I don't think there's anything else that even comes close. If there had been a hole in the dash instead of the clock, it would be the same penalty? C'mon. Meanwhile you can have a completely unoriginal luggage rack and lose maybe 4 points?

ricks327

I agree. If you have a correct Corvette clock and it works, you should
get the points. But dem are da rules.
Rick

65hihp

You caught a lucky break. Don't look for it every time. It's spelled out in the judging guide. No discretion, but you got some. That's how judging goes. Another example of the unfairness in life sometimes!



ps. I have seen some owners go nuts over inconsistencies in judging. Better to go with the flow. If you think something in judging is not right, raise your issue with the judges, and then the Team Leader if you wish. Sometimes you get satisfaction, sometimes not. It is not life and death. It should all be for your enjoyment and education. Often you will see Team Leader perogative in your favor. The goal is to help owners achieve their best possible flight judging award.

ricks327

Don,
I agree that sometimes you catch a break. Werner Meier was doing the mechanical and didn't check the date code on my carb, no deduct. But I still swear that he pulled the electrical plug off my heater blower motor as a joke. I corrected it though.
Rick

Zoomin

Understood. I came to learn the rules of the game, not change them. Just trying to give the OP a heads up.

Chuck Gongloff

I'll be going over to Howey In The Hills on Saturday morning.

Not sure what I'll be doing there, but I'll be judging something if I'm needed.

And yes, regardless of what you've heard and read, and how you feel about it, a quartzed clock is a 25 point hit. Always has been. Nothing new.

Brian VH McHale

Don't forget proof of ownership/insurance and both set of keys. Good Luck

93RubyRedCoupe

I will be there, and will be judging your car most likely. Fender covers, water, chairs, sunglasses, socket to drop your spare tire carrier down, towels for your sill plates (if you want) for the judging of the interior, and remember to HAVE FUN.....Look forward to seeing you and your car there. ARA

Chuck Gongloff

See you there, Ara.

Richard V is bringing his 67 for Sportsman display.

Chuck

93RubyRedCoupe

Yes, I talked with him last night. Very much looking forward to seeing all you guys up there this weekend. Regards. ARA

Frankie the Fink

I'll be bringing the split window along Saturday....its way too late to get it into Sportsman's Class - I got tied up with work and very sick in-laws last couple of months and this event just sorta slipped up on me

Chuck Gongloff

Looking forward to seeing both of you.

Frank, I've never seen your 63.

Capt Van

What is the Sportsman class?

Glad to see you are going to make it Frankie.

Nowhere Man

Just means you drove any year Corvette to the show. And it's not to be judged. Good luck at the show. Don't sweet the small stuff. Sit back and learn and have fun.