Question about rust developing in gas tank.
#1
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Question about rust developing in gas tank.
Just installed a new gas tank. It looks like January here in MI now- freezing temps & snow. The classic car driving season is obviously done. Should i wait til spring to put gas into this new tank rather than have fuel sit in it for the next 3-4 months ?
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
#2
I'm not a scientist, but if I had a brand new tank and I wasn't going to drive it till next spring, I'd leave it empty.
Next year, I'd follow the normal routine of filling it up, adding Stabil, and leaving things untouched until the following Spring.
Next year, I'd follow the normal routine of filling it up, adding Stabil, and leaving things untouched until the following Spring.
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Just installed a new gas tank. It looks like January here in MI now- freezing temps & snow. The classic car driving season is obviously done. Should i wait til spring to put gas into this new tank rather than have fuel sit in it for the next 3-4 months ?
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
It isn't the presence of petroleum products that will cause rust; it's the presence of water/water vapor.
Is the tank just plain steel, coated/galvanized , or stainless? Those are (were?) options for dealing with rust as well. If it's coated or stainless just leave it empty.
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My 67, with the original tank still in place, spent most of it's life in N.C and Georgia, It has been in Michigan since 2001 with various amounts of gas while in winter storage, with no additives, ie. Stabil, and there is no rust inside the tank.
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If you keep the car inside where there's no rapid temperature changes and add fresh gas occasionally, you will probably never see rust in the tank.
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Just installed a new gas tank. It looks like January here in MI now- freezing temps & snow. The classic car driving season is obviously done. Should i wait til spring to put gas into this new tank rather than have fuel sit in it for the next 3-4 months ?
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
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What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
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On the other hand, this is what happens if the car sits for 30 years with gas in the tank. It was in a dry environment in S. Cal.
Yes, that bin of rust came out of the tank! And there was plenty more in there.
Yes, that bin of rust came out of the tank! And there was plenty more in there.
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I agree, if the car doesn't given driven where gas is not added regularly, you will have problems. I put my car away in a snowbirds garage last week and it won't come out until mid to late April, which I have done for a number of years, with no issues.
Rick
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Just installed a new gas tank. It looks like January here in MI now- freezing temps & snow. The classic car driving season is obviously done. Should i wait til spring to put gas into this new tank rather than have fuel sit in it for the next 3-4 months ?
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
What steps can be taken to inhibit rust from developing inside tanks ? Driving it regularly to avoid fuel becoming rotten, keeping the tank full and adding Stabil when its stored, what else ?
I've owned 3 C1's and 2 of those when I bought them- the inside of the tanks were completely covered in rust.
Thanks-
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Send me 20 bucks a month and I will tell you there's no rust in the tank and tell you something else to worry about that's more important
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Keeping moist air out of the tank should be your primary objective. Since its already in the car, that is best accomplished by keeping it full of fresh gas (that isn't contaminated with water, obviously!) and minimizing the air space. Stabil is a good idea if you're not going to drive it. 3 to 4 months is not too long to have gas sit.
It isn't the presence of petroleum products that will cause rust; it's the presence of water/water vapor.
Is the tank just plain steel, coated/galvanized , or stainless? Those are (were?) options for dealing with rust as well. If it's coated or stainless just leave it empty.
It isn't the presence of petroleum products that will cause rust; it's the presence of water/water vapor.
Is the tank just plain steel, coated/galvanized , or stainless? Those are (were?) options for dealing with rust as well. If it's coated or stainless just leave it empty.
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I have a cottage in distant New York state and keep a '93 Camry there for my June to Sept visits. Winters it is stored in an unheated metal equipment barn; before I store it in Sept, I fill the car with gas and use a "green ****" battery switch to disconnect the battery. I've been doing that for about 10 years and I haven't had a problem with bad gas or clogged fuel injectors, it starts right up the next June.
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If there is currently no gas in the tank, why would you want to put any in? After we restored the frame on the 66, one of the first things we installed was a new gas tank. We did not put gas in the car until we were ready to start the motor. The tank sat on the frame for over a year empty. The old(original) tank although rust covered on the bottom, was clean inside, and did not leak. With everything else new on the chassis, the old tank did not look right, and I was not going to try to refinish it. It is in the box the new one came in, and is with all of the other replaced parts from the reconstruction.
Just for the sake of safety, if there was ever a fire. Again I ask, why would you want to fill it up and leave it?
Just for the sake of safety, if there was ever a fire. Again I ask, why would you want to fill it up and leave it?
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I'm a victim here. I became an expert on tank rust. Unfortunately.
That's the original sending unit float from my '58. Keep in mind that no one makes a replacement gas tank that fits properly and we have a real issue here. Gas tank rust is a really bad thing.
I've switched to non-ethanol gas and I drive the car at least once a month to use up the old gas.
When it comes to storage of your car most people are in deep trouble. Here's an article I wrote recently about storing your collection.
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That's the original sending unit float from my '58. Keep in mind that no one makes a replacement gas tank that fits properly and we have a real issue here. Gas tank rust is a really bad thing.
I've switched to non-ethanol gas and I drive the car at least once a month to use up the old gas.
When it comes to storage of your car most people are in deep trouble. Here's an article I wrote recently about storing your collection.
Richard Newton
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the inside of the gas tank on my car that's had nothing but E10 since the mid 90s. It gets stored in an unheated garage over the long canajun winters. It's never seen a drop of any additive.
Anybody see any rust?
Anybody see any rust?
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Gads - I feel like a proctologist after seeing that pic. There is a little something going on in the bottom far right. I extend, once again, the offer of my bargain-priced email "wellness check" service if you decide that you need additives...
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If I were to avail myself of your kind services, it would be for you to issue me with reminders to stop taking off the cap so often.
I think MikeM has a similar philosophy towards keeping the hood shut. This apparently reduces engine problems tremendously.
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Along the same lines, that has also been my experience with my '64 in the 42 years I've had it. Original tank, no stabil, low fuel level while stored, etc. .. No rust.