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Old 11-21-2014, 01:27 PM
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:43 PM
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Someone just "legalized" a stolen '56 Vette
How do you get to the "stolen" claim?

1956 Corvette E56S002112
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The problem being, the states title laws make it easy to do this sort of thing, it would be so much better if they would require some sort of visual inspection by the police prior to issuing a title for any vehicles!
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I believe what he was trying to say is that with the VIN plate & title being offered here, someone with a 56 Vette will be losing his or her car very soon.

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How do you get to the "stolen" claim?

1956 Corvette E56S002112
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I looked in C1 registry, no entry for that VIN there. Did a search for the VIN and stolen/theft, couldn't find a hit.

Are you saying either something is wrong with that VIN plate or clear title? The screws look right, not sure about the CHEVROLET embossed characters looking a bit flat, but otherwise, I'm not sure how OP gets to the stolen claim if the seller is telling the truth about having a clear title.
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Originally Posted by ifitgoesfast
I looked in C1 registry, no entry for that VIN there. Did a search for the VIN and stolen/theft, couldn't find a hit.

Are you saying either something is wrong with that VIN plate or clear title? The screws look right, not sure about the CHEVROLET embossed characters looking a bit flat, but otherwise, I'm not sure how OP gets to the stolen claim if the seller is telling the truth about having a clear title.
The ebay listing says the seller has the legal paperwork to match the VIN pictured.

What I am saying is that there is no logical reason to pay such a ridiculously high price ($3,300) for that small pile of obviously worthless trashed fiberglass except to be able to use that VIN plate and title to register a different '56 Vette, very likely a stolen one, whether already stolen or about to be stolen. What else WOULD you do with that stuff? Do you suppose the buyer just wanted a nice $3,300 example of an original VIN plate to frame and hang on his wall?

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The rear clip and dash don't appear to be 1956 pieces to begin with.
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Wow ! You guys are jumping to conclusions and making some wild accusations !!! That body is totally rebuildable,I have done many wrecks and that is a prime piece,,It's not that bad !,just needs a rolling frame under it, and a nose,fix the cowl and a couple doors and your lookin at a rolling rebuildable project
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I agree with 60fleetside, that is a rebuildable car. Maybe a great starting point for a restomod with a custom chassis.

There is a serious gap in logic in this discussion.

Look at it this way, we all now know to look out for the future status of E56S002112.

However, it looks like that body is mostly 59-60, not 56.
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Originally Posted by waynec
The ebay listing says the seller has the legal paperwork to match the VIN pictured.
Here's what the listing claims:
1956 Chevrolet corvette project car
VIN (Vehicle Identification Number): e56s002112
Vehicle Title: Clear
Original VIN tag and paper included.
Originally Posted by waynec
there is no logical reason to pay such a ridiculously high price ($3,300) for that small pile of obviously worthless trashed fiberglass except to be able to use that VIN plate and title to register a different '56 Vette, very likely a stolen one, whether already stolen or about to be stolen.
A lot of people pay a few thousand for a wrecked C1 or C2 to build a restomod. Many Grand Sport replica builders for C2's begin with a simple birdcage and VIN plate with clear title.

Ah, I think I see what you're trying to say. You're saying either the seller stole it, or the buyer stole a car or is about to steal one and replace the VIN plate. I wouldn't say that publicly since the seller's name is at stake here. It's a legal predicament.

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What else WOULD you do with that stuff? Do you suppose the buyer just wanted a nice $3,300 example of an original VIN plate to frame and hang on his wall?
Nope, to build either a restomod with new chassis and body, interior, or to build a C1 from all the components you could easily buy.

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That is a perfect original tag ,not a repro. The caractors letters in Chevrolet are correct
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That vin tag wasn't born with that car. I'd be scared to buy it.
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Interesting that you can buy a 1956 vin and title and you get a 58-60 car with it.
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Back in the day, this was done all the time. That's why Chevy stopped screwing the VIN tag onto the body and started spot welding it to the steering column. That's also why Chevy started stamping the VIN on the frame under the driver's seat and started stamping VIN derivatives on the engine and transmission. It used to be a secret that the VIN was stamped on the frame. Only the cops and the Registry guys were supposed to know that. I found out about it shortly after I bought my car (1974). I'll bet the wise guys knew about it 15 minutes after Chevy started doing it. I remember back in the day stripping C1s in junkyards. That's when there were C1s and C2s to be found in junkyards. You never found a VIN tag on a C1. They were all gone by the time I got there. The sale of VIN tags used to be a thriving business.
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I hate to see this kind of stuff. I started a thread regarding a 65 on ebay that is a collection of a few parts plus the VIN and cowl tag. Nothing to build but the tags are at $800 plus in bidding. Where do people think these things are used?
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I hate to see this kind of stuff. I started a thread regarding a 65 on ebay that is a collection of a few parts plus the VIN and cowl tag. Nothing to build but the tags are at $800 plus in bidding. Where do people think these things are used?
The simple act of transferring this vin tag onto another vehicle is a criminal act. We all know that. But if I had a dime for every instance I have seen a guy trying to a register a legitimate car that was missing it's proper paper work due to previous owner who died and never register his car or simply a barn find with a vin but no papers or an owner who simply lost the papers for a builder that never got off the ground I could repaint my 68! To assume someone will go steal a car to afix this vin is a bit far fetch although not entirely out of the question. I prefer to think that if someone buys this for the vin and papers it would help someone to register a legal car that would otherwise never have been able to have been titled. And if this frosts your cupcake this should really do it for you! http://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/pts/4756060266.html
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The font doesn't look correct on the repo tag. Compare the "C" to the original.

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Old 11-22-2014, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy G.
Interesting that you can buy a 1956 vin and title and you get a 58-60 car with it.
NOt a 56, even if the 58-62 dash wasn't with it. The passenger side has the aluminum support in it. 1956 did not have that item.
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I don't have an issue with the VIN tag, dead on ***** accurate, as they say in the industry.

Clearly a purchase of legal tag and paperwork.

Which does NOT necessarily mean that it will be put on a stolen car. There are plenty of cars out there that are missing their original VIN tags. I didn't say it was legal, just that it is not necessarily legalizing a stolen car.

I recall many ads back in the day for title, VIN tag, and matching frame as a "project car".
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Originally Posted by wraplock
And if this frosts your cupcake this should really do it for you! http://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/pts/4756060266.html
A stainless steel tag is NOT correct for early Corvettes. 1954 to mid 1960 model year cars had an aluminum VIN tag. I think this is true of 1953 as well. VetteDaddy, help me out here.

1953 to mid year 1960 had the VIN tags in the driver's door jam. Those tags were aluminum. The 1953 to 1959 tags were stamped from the front. The 1960 tags were embossed from the rear, even those that were in the door jams.

The tag material changed to stainless steel when the tag location changed to the steering column.


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