$20k for a repaint?
11-23-2014, 10:57 AM
#21
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Feb 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY and Clearwater, FL
Posts: 2,076
Received 196 Likes
on
144 Posts
I have learned many lessons in life.........the guy who wants to start tomorrow is NOT the one you want.
With a few exceptions......You Get What You Pay For.
I would wait for the Guy you know, who has the great reputation.
With a few exceptions......You Get What You Pay For.
I would wait for the Guy you know, who has the great reputation.
11-23-2014, 11:05 AM
#22
Safety Car
11-23-2014, 11:17 AM
#24
Melting Slicks
And for me, there was 100's of hours fixing 1970's body shop screw ups and bring it back to all glass.
Shooting the paint was the easy part.
After doing this, I'll pay the $20k on the next one.
11-23-2014, 11:34 AM
#25
Moderator
Thread Starter
yeah, this is pretty much all the reality check I need... I'll reserve my spot with the $20k guy for next fall, and enjoy the car as it is over the summer :-)
11-23-2014, 12:00 PM
#27
Drifting
Absolutely, just sanding the primer is a big job, guide coat the primer and dry block it, guide coat it again and wet sand, guide coat it again and final wet sand. Takes a long time and the really good primer is twice as hard to sand as the intermediate priced stuff.
And for me, there was 100's of hours fixing 1970's body shop screw ups and bring it back to all glass.
Shooting the paint was the easy part.
After doing this, I'll pay the $20k on the next one.
And for me, there was 100's of hours fixing 1970's body shop screw ups and bring it back to all glass.
Shooting the paint was the easy part.
After doing this, I'll pay the $20k on the next one.
11-23-2014, 12:41 PM
#29
Advanced
"The guy I went to has a stellar rep, and I've seen his work on mid years, all top notch. He also does work for my dad (my dad owns a shop, and they refer a lot of work his way), so he's not an unknown. And he's highly recommended by some of the local vette guys."
This statement alone is priceless and worth an extra 5K to me. If you dad continues to take this man work and he holds his reputation, that is worth it's weight in gold. Otherwise you take it down to the unknown guy for s 10K and it comes back to you with sand scratches and burn spots and dirt in it and you wait another 6 - 8 months for it to be done correctly.
However, I would do as much of the trim removal myself as possible. You certainly do not want to be paying a shop $80.00 per hr to do this work. It does take time to do it correctly and not to damage stainless trim.
The other factor I think gets lost in the fact is material cost. For a good quality product, it will cost in the range of $3,000 just for sprayable product and that is not including paper and tape and any glass repair material.
Unless you know what you are doing, I would suggest leaving the sanding to the professional. It sounds simple enough but you can do a lot of damage and create a ton of extra work if you do not know how to strip paint from fiberglass.
One last note. When you do a job of this scale, it is just as much work as doing a color change. Although you are not changing color, a good shop will treat it the same and that will show in the end result.
Good luck,
Tom
This statement alone is priceless and worth an extra 5K to me. If you dad continues to take this man work and he holds his reputation, that is worth it's weight in gold. Otherwise you take it down to the unknown guy for s 10K and it comes back to you with sand scratches and burn spots and dirt in it and you wait another 6 - 8 months for it to be done correctly.
However, I would do as much of the trim removal myself as possible. You certainly do not want to be paying a shop $80.00 per hr to do this work. It does take time to do it correctly and not to damage stainless trim.
The other factor I think gets lost in the fact is material cost. For a good quality product, it will cost in the range of $3,000 just for sprayable product and that is not including paper and tape and any glass repair material.
Unless you know what you are doing, I would suggest leaving the sanding to the professional. It sounds simple enough but you can do a lot of damage and create a ton of extra work if you do not know how to strip paint from fiberglass.
One last note. When you do a job of this scale, it is just as much work as doing a color change. Although you are not changing color, a good shop will treat it the same and that will show in the end result.
Good luck,
Tom
11-23-2014, 01:17 PM
#31
Melting Slicks
11-23-2014, 01:23 PM
#32
Safety Car
I'm ether to dam old to understand a 20K pant job or to stupid . I never yet had someone tell me my 55 paint looks like a five year old kid painted it when I got a top flight, people's choice and a concours award at Iron Stone Concours. And I paid less then 3K having it painted. Now I know why people sell and buy $300 air cleaner wing nuts and many people think all Corvette people are rich. And why I rarely see C1 to C2's on the road ,and why I'm happy driving my original reconditioned 55!
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
11-23-2014, 01:34 PM
#34
Moderator
Thread Starter
I'm ether to dam old to understand a 20K pant job or to stupid . I never yet had someone tell me my 55 paint looks like a five year old kid painted it when I got a top flight, people's choice and a concours award at Iron Stone Concours. And I paid less then 3K having it painted. Now I know why people sell and buy $300 air cleaner wing nuts and many people think all Corvette people are rich. And why I rarely see C1 to C2's on the road ,and why I'm happy driving my original reconditioned 55!
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
11-23-2014, 01:35 PM
#36
Race Director
I'm ether to dam old to understand a 20K pant job or to stupid . I never yet had someone tell me my 55 paint looks like a five year old kid painted it when I got a top flight, people's choice and a concours award at Iron Stone Concours. And I paid less then 3K having it painted. Now I know why people sell and buy $300 air cleaner wing nuts and many people think all Corvette people are rich. And why I rarely see C1 to C2's on the road ,and why I'm happy driving my original reconditioned 55!
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
99% of all restored Corvettes are 99% better then they ever were leaving the factory and many don't even look real being so perfect even the underside looking like beyond perfect.
I may just be in the wrong club or make of car. But then I have many other makes and see the same thing.
Afraid I fall into the same boat with you. This thread didn't go at all like what I expected. I thought $10k for a paint job was the upper limit of sanity and $20k was way over the crest. 
Guess I'm out of touch with modern reality even though I just painted a car (myself) 3 years ago and do know what's involved. This is going to make me re-think having someone spray my GTX and I guess I'll get my spray guns and knee pads back out when the time comes. 
11-23-2014, 01:38 PM
#37
Le Mans Master
I don't know about NY, but here in So Cal, $20K is a bit much, especially if you are not changing the color.
I paid $14K for a complete media-strip, body work for both repairs and customization, and a different colored, two-tone paint job with every body panel sanded to perfection. IIRC it took like over 3 months to do. This did not include the removal and replacement of the stuff that bolts on the body and chassis. The paint shop was given a fiberglass shell on a chassis.
The stripes and body were masked and done separately so there is no "line" when you run your finger over the stripes. They have the same number of coats and the stripes are not "over" the body color. Also, the stripes run over the cowl vent area and this is very difficult to do well.
I paid $14K for a complete media-strip, body work for both repairs and customization, and a different colored, two-tone paint job with every body panel sanded to perfection. IIRC it took like over 3 months to do. This did not include the removal and replacement of the stuff that bolts on the body and chassis. The paint shop was given a fiberglass shell on a chassis.
The stripes and body were masked and done separately so there is no "line" when you run your finger over the stripes. They have the same number of coats and the stripes are not "over" the body color. Also, the stripes run over the cowl vent area and this is very difficult to do well.
Last edited by toddalin; 11-23-2014 at 01:41 PM.
11-23-2014, 01:39 PM
#38
Moderator
Thread Starter
Afraid I fall into the same boat with you. This thread didn't go at all like what I expected. I thought $10k for a paint job was the upper limit of sanity and $20k was way over the crest. Guess I'm out of touch with modern reality even though I just painted a car (myself) 3 years ago and do know what's involved. This is going to make me re-think having someone spray my GTX and I guess I'll get my spray guns and knee pads back out when the time comes. Before going into this, I thought that $10k was around the high water mark, but going through this, at least for where I'm located, seems I was wrong.
11-23-2014, 04:44 PM
#40
Melting Slicks