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Be careful, I think the wrong dimensions are being picked up off the drawing above.
I measured 55.25" from center of hole from mount to mount at the firewall (#1 referenced in OP's drawing). I think #1,2, and 3 mounts make a perfect rectangle, so #2 and 3 should also be 55.25" apart, or very close to it. I'm assuming you haven't taken the body off yet, otherwise you can simply measure across from mount to mount once the body is off the chassis.
Be careful, I think the wrong dimensions are being picked up off the drawing above.
I measured 55.25" from center of hole from mount to mount at the firewall (#1 referenced in OP's drawing). I think #1,2, and 3 mounts make a perfect rectangle, so #2 and 3 should also be 55.25" apart, or very close to it. I'm assuming you haven't taken the body off yet, otherwise you can simply measure across from mount to mount once the body is off the chassis.
Ken, Maybe I missed something, edit....I got it wrong so I deleted the errors.
Be careful, I think the wrong dimensions are being picked up off the drawing above.
I measured 55.25" from center of hole from mount to mount at the firewall (#1 referenced in OP's drawing). I think #1,2, and 3 mounts make a perfect rectangle, so #2 and 3 should also be 55.25" apart, or very close to it. I'm assuming you haven't taken the body off yet, otherwise you can simply measure across from mount to mount once the body is off the chassis.
Sorry for the confusion guys, what I need is the length of red line 1 and the length of red line 3 . And yes I can measure it when the body is off, but to do that I need the dolly, and to make the dolly I need that dimension
Rick, the 44.76 dimension is the frame width at the rear end of the chassis, irrelevant. The distance from #1 to #3 is 69.18", no need to subtract the 18.02.
He's building a body dolly and is only concerned with the body mount distances on the birdcage, #1 and 3 mounts. It has nothing to do with tire width, etc. I've measured the 55.25" dimension off my own car and had others do the same. Hope this helps.
Rick, the 44.76 dimension is the frame width at the rear end of the chassis, irrelevant. The distance from #1 to #3 is 69.18", no need to subtract the 18.02.
He's building a body dolly and is only concerned with the body mount distances on the birdcage, #1 and 3 mounts. It has nothing to do with tire width, etc. I've measured the 55.25" dimension off my own car and had others do the same. Hope this helps.
I think he's asking for the diagonals between 1 & 3 endpoints to get even on the dolly so it's not racked. I had to get my old geometry book for reference.
Pythagorean's Theorem of a right triangle: a2+b2=c2
c = square root(a2+b2)
......I get 67.98"
Originally Posted by rich5962
Ken, Maybe I missed something, but going by the OP's chart, width is 44.76". Are you measuring a actual frame?
I checked the AMA specs, the front tread width(S) is 56.25". Rear tead(L) is 57.00". Inside tire-to-tire dimension(K) is 48.00", so I think 44.76 is correct.
44.76" is the outside width of the rear frame rails aft of the kick-up, which is obviously less than the width at the body mounts. The width at the body mounts cannot be determined from the dimensions in the original drawing. More side to side dimensions are needed.
The "red line" dimensions (left side body mount frame bracket hole center to the corresponding right side body mount frame bracket hole center) are as follows:
#1-2-3 - 55-1/4"
#4 - 49-1/4"
Last edited by JohnZ; 12-27-2014 at 06:22 PM.
Reason: Corrected dimensions & typo in 1-2-3
The "red line" dimensions (left side body mount frame bracket hole center to the corresponding right side body mount frame bracket hole center) are as follows:
The mounting holes are centered in the rockers, both rockers are parallel to each other, so how can mounts 1,2, and three be different dimensions? I'll stick with my 55 1/4" dimension and let the OP decide which is correct. See below, 27 5/8" x 2 = 55 1/4".
The mounting holes are centered in the rockers, both rockers are parallel to each other, so how can mounts 1,2, and three be different dimensions? I'll stick with my 55 1/4" dimension and let the OP decide which is correct. See below, 27 5/8" x 2 = 55 1/4".
Ken is correct - these old eyes were looking at a '68-'69 frame diagram for my first set of dimensions, and they were different than '63-'67 due to the "coke-bottle" body shape. I went back and edited my post to reflect the correct dimensions, which are shown in Section 2 (Frame) in the '67 Chassis Service Manual.
Rick, the 44.76 dimension is the frame width at the rear end of the chassis, irrelevant. The distance from #1 to #3 is 69.18", no need to subtract the 18.02.
He's building a body dolly and is only concerned with the body mount distances on the birdcage, #1 and 3 mounts. It has nothing to do with tire width, etc. I've measured the 55.25" dimension off my own car and had others do the same. Hope this helps.
Yup I didn't have the top view so my error. Thanks for the corrections. But just to clarify.....that 69.18" dimension? My eyss on the original diagram show that 18.02" must be subtracted as the 69.18" dimension goes from #4 to the "Gage Hole", not to #1.
Originally Posted by Y0GI
44.76" is the outside width of the rear frame rails aft of the kick-up, which is obviously less than the width at the body mounts. The width at the body mounts cannot be determined from the dimensions in the original drawing. More side to side dimensions are needed.
The "red line" dimensions (left side body mount frame bracket hole center to the corresponding right side body mount frame bracket hole center) are as follows:
#1-2-3 - 5-1/4"
#4 - 49-1/4"
I guess John the first dimension needs some mere editing?
Thanks all for your contributions. Where I live there is no reference C2 coupe at hand to compare, so this forum is where I need to find what I am looking for. It's great! Just got my NCRS membership documents! Although I am not going for a ncrs type restoration, it's one more source for me to rely on. And there is a nice bunch of ncrs club members in Holland, the country next to mine.
Last edited by alexandervdr; 12-27-2014 at 05:11 AM.
I guess John the first dimension needs some mere editing?
Thanks all for your contributions. Where I live there is no reference C2 coupe at hand to compare, so this forum is where I need to find what I am looking for. It's great! Just got my NCRS membership documents! Although I am not going for a ncrs type restoration, it's one more source for me to rely on. And there is a nice bunch of ncrs club members in Holland, the country next to mine.
I recently purchased a 63 fuelie convertible. To do the restoration justice, I plan to do a frame off. I have been looking for a set of plans to build a combination body dolly and rotisserie and I found the photos of the blue rotisserie at the end of this thread. It looks exactly like what I hoped to build. Do you have the plans and materials list that you could provide?
12-26-2014, 04:02 AM
body dolly, mounting holes
