No spark troubleshooting
#1
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No spark troubleshooting
I just finished a valve job on my 65 L79 with stock points ignition and reassembled everything and attempted to start but I have no spark. When the heads were off I installed a new Lectric Limited ignition harness, everything seemed to connect properly, it cranks over just fine, but I have no spark. I did check a couple voltages, I have 12V at the + coil terminal with the key in the run position. I also have 12V at both sides of the ballast resistor with the key in the same position. The ballast resistor was changed last year. What would be the next step to troubleshoot this problem?
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I just finished a valve job on my 65 L79 with stock points ignition and reassembled everything and attempted to start but I have no spark. When the heads were off I installed a new Lectric Limited ignition harness, everything seemed to connect properly, it cranks over just fine, but I have no spark. I did check a couple voltages, I have 12V at the + coil terminal with the key in the run position. I also have 12V at both sides of the ballast resistor with the key in the same position. The ballast resistor was changed last year. What would be the next step to troubleshoot this problem?
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#4
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Test the black ground wire on dist breaker plate for continuity....or just jump it and try to start. It may look fine, but breaks inside.
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Sounds dumb but do you have the plug wires on correct?
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Why not do a little trouble shooting? There's plenty of advice here if you use the search function?
#7
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I checked that wire for continuity and it is good. I also hooked a light up to the negative terminal of the coil and it flashes on and off while cranking. The plug wires are all on correct.
#8
Melting Slicks
Pull the Coil Wire out of your Dist. Cap and hold it near a ground while someone cranks the engine over. Spark should be a crisp Blue color. You can also watch Points while turning engine over and see if there is a spark visible. Last resort run a wire from the Battery + to the + on your coil and see if that helps. Might just be a Coil gone bad. Al W.
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Just a guess on my part but, Check the condensor...the one that hooks to points..
#10
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Pull the short coil wire out of the cap. Have a friend hold it a 1/4 inch or so away from the block/manifold when you are cranking the engine. Make sure friend uses a rag or insulated pliers You should be getting a spark there.
Perhaps the center metal "tang" on the distributor rotor is not touching the electrode in the distributor cap. You can bend it up slightly.
If you had a dwell meter, you should hook it up and check for 28-30 degrees of dwell while cranking. This will ensure you have the proper gap and that the points are functioning okay.
What is the voltage at the coil + terminal during cranking?? When you are cranking the car with the starter, the coil gets its 12v power from a different wire than when the ignition switch is in in the "run" position. Maybe that second power source wire is bad. It comes from the starter solenoid small, side "R" terminal. The coil + terminal should have two wires attached to it: one from the ballast resistor and one from the starter solenoid.
Larry
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I just finished a valve job on my 65 L79 with stock points ignition and reassembled everything and attempted to start but I have no spark. When the heads were off I installed a new Lectric Limited ignition harness, everything seemed to connect properly, it cranks over just fine, but I have no spark. I did check a couple voltages, I have 12V at the + coil terminal with the key in the run position. I also have 12V at both sides of the ballast resistor with the key in the same position. The ballast resistor was changed last year. What would be the next step to troubleshoot this problem?
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You did mean the test light while cranking was off/on/off/on, not bright/dim/bright/dim?
You shouldn't have 12 volts on the coil side of the resistor but that won't keep you from having a spark.
#13
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I believe you have narrowed your problem to either the coil or condenser with the check you did here. That is, unless you forgot to install the rotor?
You did mean the test light while cranking was off/on/off/on, not bright/dim/bright/dim?
You shouldn't have 12 volts on the coil side of the resistor but that won't keep you from having a spark.
You did mean the test light while cranking was off/on/off/on, not bright/dim/bright/dim?
You shouldn't have 12 volts on the coil side of the resistor but that won't keep you from having a spark.
The 12 volts he stated was with the key in the "run" position………the points were likely open when these reading(s) was taken, resulting in no current flow and 12 volts on both sides of the ballast resistor.
Agree that when the car is running, the ballast resistor will have 12 volts on one side and 8 volts (or so) on the other side. But it ain't running yet.
Larry
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I believe you have narrowed your problem to either the coil or condenser with the check you did here. That is, unless you forgot to install the rotor?
You did mean the test light while cranking was off/on/off/on, not bright/dim/bright/dim?
You shouldn't have 12 volts on the coil side of the resistor but that won't keep you from having a spark.
You did mean the test light while cranking was off/on/off/on, not bright/dim/bright/dim?
You shouldn't have 12 volts on the coil side of the resistor but that won't keep you from having a spark.
Thanks for the help.
#15
Melting Slicks
What was the coil that failed?
Steve
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Brian
#17
Melting Slicks
Pull the Coil Wire out of your Dist. Cap and hold it near a ground while someone cranks the engine over. Spark should be a crisp Blue color. You can also watch Points while turning engine over and see if there is a spark visible. Last resort run a wire from the Battery + to the + on your coil and see if that helps. Might just be a Coil gone bad. Al W.