My 61 compared to 2015 Mustang GT
#1
Race Director
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My 61 compared to 2015 Mustang GT
I saw this video (must watch this to get my drift, or please press the back button)
So it sure looks fun, right?
My only complaint with my 61 is it can be a chore parking it with manual steering.
So i tested the GT and to my surprise it was just as hard to park as my 61! The salesman said i have to go much faster to get it to steer easy. If i drive it like the blonde, won't he **** in his pants?
My review of GT
Likes:
comfy seat, great shifter, looks good in ruby red.
Dislikes:
Mystery clutch has no feel and release was so high i could not pull out smoothly.
Heavy steering when parking.
Flat spot in light acceleration sometimes.
Needs camera(included) to back up(poor vision)
My only complaint with my 61 is it can be a chore parking it with manual steering.
So i tested the GT and to my surprise it was just as hard to park as my 61! The salesman said i have to go much faster to get it to steer easy. If i drive it like the blonde, won't he **** in his pants?
My review of GT
Likes:
comfy seat, great shifter, looks good in ruby red.
Dislikes:
Mystery clutch has no feel and release was so high i could not pull out smoothly.
Heavy steering when parking.
Flat spot in light acceleration sometimes.
Needs camera(included) to back up(poor vision)
Last edited by Matt Gruber; 02-24-2015 at 06:59 AM.
#2
Team Owner
With the front end stuff in good condition, the correct (large) steering wheel, and, using proper technique the later C1s can be maneuvered quite well. Naive drivers who stop in mid-maneuver and try to turn the wheel with the resting weight of the car on the tires is what I mean...a little momentum and steering is manageable (not fingertip control mind you, but manageable).
Having said that I've always thought the Mustang may be the most 'bang for the buck' performance wise in a sporty four seater - and, yes, they have their eccentricities too!
Having said that I've always thought the Mustang may be the most 'bang for the buck' performance wise in a sporty four seater - and, yes, they have their eccentricities too!
#4
Team Owner
I actually don't know - I'm sure the wider tires are working against you in tight spots. I thought all these cars had "smart" power steering that increased the "assist" in tight spots and reduced it at speed.
#7
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Yes! i tried all 3 settings and could not tell any difference in the parking lot. Salesman said it only works on the highway. I did not go out for a drive, since it flunked my parking test.
So as a former stang owner, did yours get easy on Comfort when parking? Maybe the Gt i tested had a defect?
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Frankie has it right (of course) . . . the secret to steering my '62 is to keep her rolling. As long as you're moving, that stock 17" steering wheel gives you plenty of leverage. The trick to successful parallel parking is knowing how to do it, and turning the wheel at the correct times and angles to get you into the spot. Parallel parking seems to be pretty much a lost art anyway these days . . . go out and practice it a little (maybe use some traffic cones, not other people's cars) until it becomes instinctive. My sons still refer to me the "World's best backer-upper", but many, many years of professional fire truck driving, up to and including huge 27-ton tower ladders - and backing them into narrow, 100-year-old fire houses - teaches you to (1) KNOW YOUR VEHICLE, and (2) LEARN TO USE YOUR MIRRORS. After driving them on emergency response in the dead of winter on cramped and crowded Syracuse University streets, driving and parking my old Corvette is an absolute joy. You just have to plan ahead as much as you can, which is never a bad idea.
I did drive a 2015 Mustang a while ago, and it's not a bad car. I don't want one, but you can spend more and get less.
I did drive a 2015 Mustang a while ago, and it's not a bad car. I don't want one, but you can spend more and get less.
#9
Race Director
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The reason was the brakes, etc, not the steering! I just fixed the brakes in the 61, rebuilt the wheel cylinder, and i was thinking, "do i want to spend my time fixing a 50+ year old 61, or just buy a new sports car"
So i went out today in the 61, and only once did i use 2 hands on the wheel, for 2 seconds going into a tight space, an SUV blocked the view, so i had to turn in fast. Usually, I use my left hand for steering and my right hand for shifting gif is cute, but not how i drive.
I foolishly expected a new GT to do everything better, had to use 2 hands all the time parking the mustang. when i nailed the 61 today i noticed some smoke. There is that Q again, i'm 62, how many times do i want to fix this. Just venting. Wait, that was TIRE smoke. nevermind.
thanks for all the replies!
So i went out today in the 61, and only once did i use 2 hands on the wheel, for 2 seconds going into a tight space, an SUV blocked the view, so i had to turn in fast. Usually, I use my left hand for steering and my right hand for shifting gif is cute, but not how i drive.
I foolishly expected a new GT to do everything better, had to use 2 hands all the time parking the mustang. when i nailed the 61 today i noticed some smoke. There is that Q again, i'm 62, how many times do i want to fix this. Just venting. Wait, that was TIRE smoke. nevermind.
thanks for all the replies!
Last edited by Matt Gruber; 02-24-2015 at 11:57 AM.
#10
Race Director
I wonder if the tires used on the GT, have anything to do with what you experienced.
My Silverado has the optional 20" wheels and P275/55R20 on it. I won't say that it's overly heavy when parking, but it does seem heavier than the steering on a friend's similar Silverado, with the standard 275/70R17 tires.
It could be just the extra resistance caused by the wider rubber, or maybe the auto makers don't re-calibrate the variable-ratio power steering, to a specific tire?
My Silverado has the optional 20" wheels and P275/55R20 on it. I won't say that it's overly heavy when parking, but it does seem heavier than the steering on a friend's similar Silverado, with the standard 275/70R17 tires.
It could be just the extra resistance caused by the wider rubber, or maybe the auto makers don't re-calibrate the variable-ratio power steering, to a specific tire?
#11
Le Mans Master
I tested a blue GT manual trans car and I loved it. I own a '70 428 Cobra Jet big block Ford Mustang, and I was really wanting to order one. But I opted to order a new 2015 Chevy 2500HD, and that's just what I did.
I will miss the 2015 Mustang, but there will be plenty of them made for me to pick up along the way later on.
Here is my '70 Mustang and '72 Vette.
I will miss the 2015 Mustang, but there will be plenty of them made for me to pick up along the way later on.
Here is my '70 Mustang and '72 Vette.
#12
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Thread Starter
I wonder if the tires used on the GT, have anything to do with what you experienced.
My Silverado has the optional 20" wheels and P275/55R20 on it. I won't say that it's overly heavy when parking, but it does seem heavier than the steering on a friend's similar Silverado, with the standard 275/70R17 tires.
It could be just the extra resistance caused by the wider rubber, or maybe the auto makers don't re-calibrate the variable-ratio power steering, to a specific tire?
My Silverado has the optional 20" wheels and P275/55R20 on it. I won't say that it's overly heavy when parking, but it does seem heavier than the steering on a friend's similar Silverado, with the standard 275/70R17 tires.
It could be just the extra resistance caused by the wider rubber, or maybe the auto makers don't re-calibrate the variable-ratio power steering, to a specific tire?
I think they vary due to production tolerance variation.
Anyway guys, next time i get mad at working on my old cars, i'll hire a helper!
#13
Drifting
"Ask the man who owns one"
Yes! i tried all 3 settings and could not tell any difference in the parking lot. Salesman said it only works on the highway. I did not go out for a drive, since it flunked my parking test.
So as a former stang owner, did yours get easy on Comfort when parking? Maybe the Gt i tested had a defect?
Yes! i tried all 3 settings and could not tell any difference in the parking lot. Salesman said it only works on the highway. I did not go out for a drive, since it flunked my parking test.
So as a former stang owner, did yours get easy on Comfort when parking? Maybe the Gt i tested had a defect?
But if it was hard to turn as a 61.... there was something wrong with it.
#14
Instructor
I bought my wife a 2015 Mustang to replace her 1994 Mustang that I bought her for our 30th anniversary. She likes it and has no problem with the steering as it can be adjusted and is now set on comfort. The V6 has plenty of power with the 6 speed automatic it feels faster than my C4 Corvette and drives better.
I would still rather drive a C1 Corvette anytime.
I would still rather drive a C1 Corvette anytime.
#17
Team Owner
I was doing Mustangs before I ever thought about a Corvette!
Should have never sold this 66 convertible - haven't seen one as nice since...
Should have never sold this 66 convertible - haven't seen one as nice since...
#18
Race Director
Thread Starter
just google " new cars most fun to drive"
not 2015 mustang, too bad camaro is LEAST fun
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...rive/index.htm
i did find a 2014 mustang on another list, but not the 2015!
I'd say the car in the DATE AD in 1st post is a RINGER (modded by ford to look fun, but mods not available to buyers)
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I may try the 2016 camaro, as it will be built on the caddy ats chassis as the ATS is on the most fun list.
not 2015 mustang, too bad camaro is LEAST fun
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...rive/index.htm
i did find a 2014 mustang on another list, but not the 2015!
I'd say the car in the DATE AD in 1st post is a RINGER (modded by ford to look fun, but mods not available to buyers)
.
I may try the 2016 camaro, as it will be built on the caddy ats chassis as the ATS is on the most fun list.
#19
Team Owner
Hmmm...
Newer isn't always better. I love my 2013 Tundra truck but that dang "drive by wire" feel of the accelerator is twitchy as all hell. If you don't feather it from take off you wind up jerking your passengers around.
And my constant passenger of nearly 45 years doesn't mind letting me know about it
Newer isn't always better. I love my 2013 Tundra truck but that dang "drive by wire" feel of the accelerator is twitchy as all hell. If you don't feather it from take off you wind up jerking your passengers around.
And my constant passenger of nearly 45 years doesn't mind letting me know about it
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 02-25-2015 at 07:33 AM.
#20
Race Director
Thread Starter
when i let up the mystery clutch, and tried to give the GT gas there was an annoying delay. almost stall, or jerk the nose off the ground
It looked like i never drove a stick before! NO FUN! ANTI-FUN.
Even if it steered great, i would never buy it. There is no excuse for this!
If it could talk like MR ED, it would say
DONT BUY ME. TAKE ME TO FINISHING SCHOOL.
It looked like i never drove a stick before! NO FUN! ANTI-FUN.
Even if it steered great, i would never buy it. There is no excuse for this!
If it could talk like MR ED, it would say
DONT BUY ME. TAKE ME TO FINISHING SCHOOL.