Original engine vs. Original paint
02-24-2015, 03:44 PM
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Original engine vs. Original trim color
Hello forum. I have been looking for a for awhile for a C2 in the price range that I wanted to spend. I originally wanted 1965-67. Numbers matching engine, color, and trim. Good condition; no project. Somewhat selective on colors (silver, red, blue preferred).
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
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02-24-2015, 03:54 PM
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Hello forum. I have been looking for a for awhile for a C2 in the price range that I wanted to spend. I originally wanted 1965-67. Numbers matching engine, paint, and trim. Good condition; no project. Somewhat selective on colors (silver, red, blue preferred).
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
02-24-2015, 04:30 PM
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I guess that just depends on the weight you put on originality whether it be paint/color or mechanics. What's most important to you? Some say original paint since you know what's under that and there won't be any mysteries when it comes time to repaint if that's your plan. Then the other school of thought is original motor is best so you can say it's "number's matching" and impress people who are easily impressed!
A color change car may have been done since Mauve and Gold wasn't attractive then and it's not attractive now!
Sometimes that may increase a value of an otherwise mundane cruiser.
It just depends on what you plan on doing with the car, and despite what some say, you actually can buy a car because it's what you want regardless of it being no 100% factory correct. Like what you see and the price is reasonable, buy and enjoy!
Best of luck.
Cheers
A color change car may have been done since Mauve and Gold wasn't attractive then and it's not attractive now! Sometimes that may increase a value of an otherwise mundane cruiser.It just depends on what you plan on doing with the car, and despite what some say, you actually can buy a car because it's what you want regardless of it being no 100% factory correct.
Like what you see and the price is reasonable, buy and enjoy! Best of luck.
Cheers
02-24-2015, 04:40 PM
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Good advice. Original paint is different than original color. Very few have original paint that is presentable. A few here on this forum do. I have some original paint in places, but it's toast.
I have an original lower hp l75 engine and except in the rare event of a resale- where it would make the transaction maybe easier- I could not care less. That's just me.
Now as to v1's comment... You can't go making fun of Saddle Tan. There are an amazing number of people on this forum who think it's the bees knees. It takes all kinds! (If I was not posting from my phone I would put up the little guy hiding under a chair)
I have an original lower hp l75 engine and except in the rare event of a resale- where it would make the transaction maybe easier- I could not care less. That's just me.
Now as to v1's comment... You can't go making fun of Saddle Tan. There are an amazing number of people on this forum who think it's the bees knees. It takes all kinds! (If I was not posting from my phone I would put up the little guy hiding under a chair)
02-24-2015, 04:48 PM
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Good advice. Original paint is different than original color. Very few have original paint that is presentable. A few here on this forum do. I have some original paint in places, but it's toast.
I have an original lower hp l75 engine and except in the rare event of a resale- where it would make the transaction maybe easier- I could not care less. That's just me.
Now as to v1's comment... You can't go making fun of Saddle Tan. There are an amazing number to people on this forum who think it's the bees knees. It takes all kinds! (If I was not posting from my phone I would put up the little guy hiding under a chair)
I have an original lower hp l75 engine and except in the rare event of a resale- where it would make the transaction maybe easier- I could not care less. That's just me.
Now as to v1's comment... You can't go making fun of Saddle Tan. There are an amazing number to people on this forum who think it's the bees knees. It takes all kinds! (If I was not posting from my phone I would put up the little guy hiding under a chair)
02-24-2015, 04:57 PM
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My vote goes for original engine, if it's the real deal. .. Hard to imagine original paint looking fairly decent 50+ years on. . .. At least paint is 'replaceable'; not so original engine.
Still wish I had the original engine in my car. A bad connecting rod came apart and took out block back in '74.
Still wish I had the original engine in my car. A bad connecting rod came apart and took out block back in '74.
02-24-2015, 04:58 PM
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If you're not going for judging points and you're not paying for "correct", it doesn't make any difference in the value of the car to YOU! Just don't pay extra for it.
02-24-2015, 05:04 PM
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Color that matches the Trim tag should not really be that difficult to find.
Original engine, (ie, truly born with original) is extremely difficult to find in a running car at your price-point, or any price-point. So called numbers matching is somewhat common, but that raises price a bit. If I were you and needed to stay around 50K I would focus in 66s, or 65s, and would not worry about original engine. Correct color to match Trim tag and a good original nose and tail body if you can find it would be a very good car, especially with some options.
Good luck
Original engine, (ie, truly born with original) is extremely difficult to find in a running car at your price-point, or any price-point. So called numbers matching is somewhat common, but that raises price a bit. If I were you and needed to stay around 50K I would focus in 66s, or 65s, and would not worry about original engine. Correct color to match Trim tag and a good original nose and tail body if you can find it would be a very good car, especially with some options.
Good luck
02-24-2015, 05:26 PM
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I wouldn't worry about either of them. Just buy one you like in the best condition you can find within your price range. In my opinion, a good solid car trumps matching anything.
02-24-2015, 05:29 PM
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As an alternative, you could look for a 64 that has great paint in the color you want and matching #'s. Convert to disk brakes if you want (I assume that's why you're looking at 65 up), but drive it some before you make that decision.
02-24-2015, 05:35 PM
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with Steve.
02-24-2015, 05:55 PM
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Hello forum. I have been looking for a for awhile for a C2 in the price range that I wanted to spend. I originally wanted 1965-67. Numbers matching engine, color, and trim. Good condition; no project. Somewhat selective on colors (silver, red, blue preferred).
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
I have gotten to the point that I am willing to give in on something. I am considering either giving up on the original motor, or the original color as these appear to be what I'm finding in my price range (+/- $50k).
I think that I may know the majority view, but wanted to get your thoughts. Can you comment on which, in your opinion, would be the preferred route.
Thank you so much.
So, if your goal is to find a car to have fun with rather than a numbers matching car you're going to campaign for trophies, you might consider a NOM and let the fun begin.
-- Steve
02-24-2015, 06:07 PM
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02-24-2015, 06:12 PM
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I guess that just depends on the weight you put on originality whether it be paint/color or mechanics. What's most important to you? Some say original paint since you know what's under that and there won't be any mysteries when it comes time to repaint if that's your plan. Then the other school of thought is original motor is best so you can say it's "number's matching" and impress people who are easily impressed! A color change car may have been done since Mauve and Gold wasn't attractive then and it's not attractive now! Sometimes that may increase a value of an otherwise mundane cruiser.
It just depends on what you plan on doing with the car, and despite what some say, you actually can buy a car because it's what you want regardless of it being no 100% factory correct. Like what you see and the price is reasonable, buy and enjoy!
Best of luck.
Don't tell me saddle isn't attractive, lets do black for the 1,000,000,000 time
Cheers
A color change car may have been done since Mauve and Gold wasn't attractive then and it's not attractive now! Sometimes that may increase a value of an otherwise mundane cruiser.It just depends on what you plan on doing with the car, and despite what some say, you actually can buy a car because it's what you want regardless of it being no 100% factory correct.
Like what you see and the price is reasonable, buy and enjoy! Best of luck.
Don't tell me saddle isn't attractive, lets do black for the 1,000,000,000 time
Cheers
02-24-2015, 06:20 PM
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There's one consideration about original motors that doesn't get mentioned too often. I have the original motor in my car but sometimes I wish I had a NOM. Every time I want to get on it and wind it out a little, I get a little nervous when I hit around 4,500 - 5,000 RPM thinking about that 50-year old engine and I back it off. I've never even gotten close to redline. Maybe I'm overly cautious but once the original engine is gone, it's gone and that premium price I paid for the original is up in smoke. If it was a NOM, I wouldn't give a hoot how I drove it.
So, if your goal is to find a car to have fun with rather than a numbers matching car you're going to campaign for trophies, you might consider a NOM and let the fun begin.
-- Steve
So, if your goal is to find a car to have fun with rather than a numbers matching car you're going to campaign for trophies, you might consider a NOM and let the fun begin.
-- Steve
Steve...
I'm runnung a NOM block in my '64, and I always drive ***** out, pedal to the floor in it because the original is in my barn. -Bruce
02-24-2015, 06:26 PM
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