Car Stalled Today While At A Light…Wouldn't Start Back Up
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How about clarify, straight out, when you say "turn over" are you meaning "start"? The engine is turned over by the starter, but needs fuel and spark to start. Does your definition of "turn over" mean that the engine is running?
Just this once, use these terms: did it crank, but no start....or would it not crank at all, no starter sound, no engine cranking? When you turned the key, could you hear the engine "turning over (cranking)" trying to start?
Just this once, use these terms: did it crank, but no start....or would it not crank at all, no starter sound, no engine cranking? When you turned the key, could you hear the engine "turning over (cranking)" trying to start?
The OP still haven't given enough information to do anything but guess. Maybe one of the safety pins fell out of his KO wheels?
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In defense of the tow truck driver, I had a fuel pump with fewer than 2000 miles on it do exactly what your car did. Once I got it started on the road after it quit and the next time ,like you , after it was taken off the flatbed in my driveway. I had checked everything suggested in the posts above after the first time it stopped and found nothing. While broken down the second time I pulled the fuel filter line and nothing came through while cranking so I knew the problem then. I never expected it to start after being towed to my driveway but it did.
I replaced the pump and then tore it apart to find one of the valves inside had come loose. I could see where it had scarred the diaphragm plate when it had come loose but apparently it would drop back into place at times or with vibration like a flatbed ride and allow it to run. It was a reproduction pump sold by a Corvette supplier. I bought an Airtec from my local auto parts store to replace it and for 5000 miles no problem. Dave
I replaced the pump and then tore it apart to find one of the valves inside had come loose. I could see where it had scarred the diaphragm plate when it had come loose but apparently it would drop back into place at times or with vibration like a flatbed ride and allow it to run. It was a reproduction pump sold by a Corvette supplier. I bought an Airtec from my local auto parts store to replace it and for 5000 miles no problem. Dave
#23
Le Mans Master
you guys really must be lame.
It is very clear to me from Mr. Bond's repeated description.
He turns key to start and nothing happens.
Car is supposed to go, but won't go.
Captain Obvious..
FtF-
I'd be lost without my daily dose of CF.
ps. you would too.
It is very clear to me from Mr. Bond's repeated description.
He turns key to start and nothing happens.
Car is supposed to go, but won't go.
Captain Obvious..
FtF-
I'd be lost without my daily dose of CF.
ps. you would too.
Last edited by 65hihp; 04-19-2015 at 06:26 PM.
#24
Team Owner
Reread post #9...I guess you think a "..cranking noise"; means silence... Must be tough to be so smart....but then why hang out here with all the lame azzes...?
#25
Safety Car
I'm so glad I stayed out of this one because I knew from the beginning that this would happen.
I thought that illiteracy had been virtually wiped out in white, rural America.
Guess not.
To some of youse wise azzes: never ASSUME, because when you do, you make an A$$ out of U and ME.
I thought that illiteracy had been virtually wiped out in white, rural America.
Guess not.
To some of youse wise azzes: never ASSUME, because when you do, you make an A$$ out of U and ME.
Last edited by 65tripleblack; 04-19-2015 at 06:35 PM.
#26
How about clarify, straight out, when you say "turn over" are you meaning "start"? The engine is turned over by the starter, but needs fuel and spark to start. Does your definition of "turn over" mean that the engine is running?
Just this once, use these terms: did it crank, but no start....or would it not crank at all, no starter sound, no engine cranking? When you turned the key, could you hear the engine "turning over (cranking)" trying to start?
Just this once, use these terms: did it crank, but no start....or would it not crank at all, no starter sound, no engine cranking? When you turned the key, could you hear the engine "turning over (cranking)" trying to start?
#28
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You're going to have to get it to do it again and narrow it down to fuel or spark. I had a friend with the same symptoms you have. It turned out to be the fuel pump. The pin that the lever rocks on was missing and the lever would fall out of place and not work, then vibrate around and pump again. There's a post on the forum about it with pictures of the fuel pump with the missing pin.
If it happens again, pull a spark plug wire (or coil wire) and turn the engine over with the starter and see if you get a spark to ground. Also, take off the breather top and watch to see if fuel squirts into the carb when you pump the accelerator. These two should help narrow it down to whether you are missing fuel or spark.
If it happens again, pull a spark plug wire (or coil wire) and turn the engine over with the starter and see if you get a spark to ground. Also, take off the breather top and watch to see if fuel squirts into the carb when you pump the accelerator. These two should help narrow it down to whether you are missing fuel or spark.
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I agree with others - OP needs to learn generally-used terms. "Turns over", "Kicks over", "Cranks", "Spins" mean the starter motor is making the motor go around - "RURRR-a. RURRR-a, RuRRR-a", but it won't go "vroom" and start.
If the car does not kick over, it means it goes "click", or maybe "click-click-click-click", or maybe no noise at all.
If the car turns over, makes the "trying" noise, but does not fire up, that COULD be a fuel pump issue per tow truck driver. If it does NOT try to spin over, that's something different, perhaps the firewall plug mentioned above.
Pardon the attempted sound effects but the OP has provided confusing and conflicting info.
If the car does not kick over, it means it goes "click", or maybe "click-click-click-click", or maybe no noise at all.
If the car turns over, makes the "trying" noise, but does not fire up, that COULD be a fuel pump issue per tow truck driver. If it does NOT try to spin over, that's something different, perhaps the firewall plug mentioned above.
Pardon the attempted sound effects but the OP has provided confusing and conflicting info.
#30
Plus who knows did he get spark while cranking ,now he does. Tester needed ,or stuck float .Fix it and let us know.
#31
Melting Slicks
After reading 30 posts, I do believe that this has been one of the most confusing threads I've ever read as there still doesn't seem to be any definitive answer as to exactly what the car was doing when it wouldn't start. In post #26 you state "it made a sound". Not to be condescending to the OP but I'm totally confused by your descriptions and, by the looks of it I'm not alone.
Gary
Gary
Last edited by Gary's '66; 04-19-2015 at 10:58 PM.
#32
Drifting
This thread is an all time classic CF train wreck...and is why I come to visit here so often. Highly entertaining... Kudos to all who contributed, especially the sound effect post by Railroadman. That made me laugh out loud..
Carry on please.
tc
Carry on please.
tc
#33
Team Owner
420 day started early...
#34
Le Mans Master
OP's issue makes perfect sense to me.
66jack, not so much.
66jack, not so much.
#35
Le Mans Master
Could be a classic problem.
Owner pulls up to a stop sign and the car stalls because of "fuel slosh" (slightly incorrect float adjustment), cold engine, or whatever.
Owner instantly panics and pumps the pedal, maybe a few times even unthinkingly, flooding out the engine and creating a puddle of gas and an over rich mixture adding to the problem and the car won't start.
Later, this stuff dissipates and the car starts and run fine. Happened to me waiting in line at a car show and ended up pushing the car out of line and it later started fine.
Owner pulls up to a stop sign and the car stalls because of "fuel slosh" (slightly incorrect float adjustment), cold engine, or whatever.
Owner instantly panics and pumps the pedal, maybe a few times even unthinkingly, flooding out the engine and creating a puddle of gas and an over rich mixture adding to the problem and the car won't start.
Later, this stuff dissipates and the car starts and run fine. Happened to me waiting in line at a car show and ended up pushing the car out of line and it later started fine.
#38
Team Owner
Wow - so now I'm illiterate -- all those years of tuition money wasted
True - a classic CF train wreck; complete with trolls, boogeymen, bad guys, and the unwitting...
True - a classic CF train wreck; complete with trolls, boogeymen, bad guys, and the unwitting...
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Melting Slicks