ricks327

I disagree. With over 37 years of law enforcement and district court experience, this woman crossed the center line and caused the death of another. I believe the PD and Prosecutor's Office will pursue some type of negligent homicide, not a traffic violation.That could take days, weeks, to months. We will have to wait for the investigation to be completed before we will know what actual charges will be filed. There maybe mitigating circumstances that a defense attorney may find to reduce a final ruling.
Rick

Frankie the Fink

I was a Senior Executive at the Department of Justice....so what ?
We'll have to wait and see...

ricks327

What makes you think only a traffic citation?
Here is the Michigan penal code:

750.324 Negligent homicide; penalty.

Sec. 324.
Any person who, by the operation of any vehicle upon any highway or upon any other property, public or private, at an immoderate rate of speed or in a careless, reckless or negligent manner, but not wilfully or wantonly, shall cause the death of another, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison not more than 2 years or by a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

I handled several of these type of cases as a LEO and sat through several trials while employed at the court and found that the defense had a very tough road to travel. Most of the time the defense attorney worked real hard on a plea deal.

ChattanoogaJSB

Not to belabor the point, but between a motorcycle accident and an old car accident, I do feel basic physics implies to me anyway that is rather be struck by a 4,000 lb car in an old 3,200 lb car than on a 600 lb motorcycle.

ifitgoesfast

The female driver illegally crossed the median and recklessly caused the death of the male driver who was driving within his lane. I sway recklessly because the female driver, after the accident, declined medical attention, so she was aware and conscious of her actions.

Blaming the deceased male driver for the reckless and conscious actions of the female driver who illegally crossed into his lane is exactly what you already know it is (ends in "roll").

Claiming no charges will be filed ignores the conscious and reckless circumstances directly cause the death.

We'll see whether the D.A. does their job or decides to look the other way.

ricks327

If the D.A./Prosecutor's Office doesn't file charges, he/she should be voted out of office. Legally driving on a roadway and be struck by someone who crossed a median is a criminal offense, not a traffic offense when you lose your life.
Rick

Jackfit

Sad, but.....

Guys, a lot of us are almost 69-70....just put on your belt and watch out...I tend to drive faster than the other old people on the road...lol

jack

ricks327

Alzheimer's generally starts in the early 60's but it does not happen suddenly. Someone doesn't have instant symptoms and loses control of their car. If this woman had AD, the symptoms were evident to family and friends long before this accident but possibly ignored or overlooked.
Whatever the reasons for her actions, it is a sad for the deceased and her.
Rick

paulywannafly

the guy was a pilot for donald Trump . Must have caught him off guard cause when we fly we are always watching for things that will take you out .

Railroadman

The man killed served in the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade. Later a pilot for Trump Aviation. Reports are the deceased was ejected, so possibly not wearing a seat belt.



Also, the woman in the Lexus, if this is the same one, seems to be a well-known real estate agent in the area. http://elainemoran.featuredwebsite.c...o_cur_size.jpg



I'm guessing this does not get more than a failure to keep right ticket but hope I'm wrong.

sub006

My first thought was steering column impalement, but no.

But a professional pilot who doesn't buckle up?

OTOH, land-bound vehicles that only attain double-digit speeds might seem like a walk in the park to an airman. Remember the off-duty Florida auto stunts of the Mercury astronauts (except John Glenn)?

Kerrmudgeon

What do real estate agents do all day long in their car? They're always on the phone or computer talking to clients, or looking for street numbers and listings.
You cross the median line, sorry, you're in the wrong. AND, you caused a death. PERIOD! It could have been any one of us.

Randy G.

The only problem with your video from what I have been told is that the 59 Chevy didn't have an engine in it, hence nothing to stop the 09 from driving right through it.

SDVette

It not "my video", but your statement here is one of those persistent internet rumors:

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...ir-crash-test/

ifitgoesfast

There's a difference between rumor and observation.

Go to time 0:57 to 0:58 showing the impact from the passenger side (Bel Air) when the hood pops up and the front is crushed. Rewind, replay. Even before that, the dash, from the inside, bends upward in deformation, but the steering wheel does not crush the crash dummy.

Mr. Zuby said they didn't want to sacrifice a museum piece or show car, so they bought one which had a 6 cylinder engine when they purchased it. It said nothing about whether the engine remained in the car when they crash tested it. Watch the video.

edit to add photos:

Where's the engine?


photo from http://www.iihs.org/media/713f4cee-6...ompartment.jpg



So what REALLY happens when you crash test an older car with a newer car without removing the engine from the older car?

Stuntbusters: Head-On Collision (1962 Cadillac vs. 2002 Cadillac)

SDVette

I have no special insight into this test.

I myself ASSUME that since the reporter was trying to confirm or deny a conspiracy theory, it would be been clearly pointed out, since confirming a conspiracy is always much bigger news than denying one.

IMO, the photos and stills are not enough evidence to say the motor was not present. The under-hood space is HUGE, and the smaller 6-cylinder would have lots of room to swim around.

OldKarz

100%.

426 Hemi

Looks like it's been on display a few times. Guess they could have put the engine back in before that but would have been a job.

My take is with the offset collision the Malibu would have slid down the side of the engine --------straight 6 being relatively narrow.

MikeM

Came up a little short on this one, eh counselor?

http://patch.com/new-jersey/longvall...d-trumps-pilot

csherman

it is very rare someone gets convicted - unless there are outside influences, ie...drugs, alcohol, etc....
In 18 years we do see that many...