63 SW Complete Chassis/Drivetrain
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63 SW Complete Chassis/Drivetrain
Read this ad today and thought somebody here might be interested while the car is still in Florida
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...ain/1064264275
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...ain/1064264275
Last edited by Canuck62; 04-20-2015 at 07:55 AM.
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Another original car lost...
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Burning Brakes
So what happens to the serial number for this car? Do sellers grind the number off the frame so that it can't come back under its original serial number?
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Remember styles and fads change. My bottom line: KEEP IT STOCK!
If you must do some modifications, keep all your original parts.
If you must do some modifications, keep all your original parts.
Last edited by wonderful; 04-20-2015 at 02:35 PM.
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The guys buying these $150K+ restomods are nouveau riche investment bankers, real estate developers, etc.. They don't care about the hobby, what you or I think or preserving the history of these cars. They just want to look cool, have a toy and brag to some 'suck up' that they have "this or that" car.
Most have never had a spec of dirt under their fingernails. Just the way things are going I'm afraid.
Most have never had a spec of dirt under their fingernails. Just the way things are going I'm afraid.
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Of course it is, and the Mona Lisa is just a painting....and the TaJ Mahal is just a building....yada, yada. If you apply that logic then nothing has value beyond the cost of its intrinsic components....and the labor to put them together.
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The guys buying these $150K+ restomods are nouveau riche investment bankers, real estate developers, etc.. They don't care about the hobby, what you or I think or preserving the history of these cars. They just want to look cool, have a toy and brag to some 'suck up' that they have "this or that" car.
Most have never had a spec of dirt under their fingernails. Just the way things are going I'm afraid.
Most have never had a spec of dirt under their fingernails. Just the way things are going I'm afraid.
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Let them cut them up. The more that get cut, the more the original cars will be worth! (Some day) because lets face it, a well done 63 split window cp on a high dollar roadster shop frame and a custom independent rear and a LS engine brings over $250,000. A very nice original built 63 cp. is about $100,000 unless it is a 340,360 or Z06. But it my turn around again who knows? And when it does we who kept them stock will win or turn ours into the latest fad, Electric? Anybody have a trashed chevy Volt for sale?
Last edited by 65 Pro Vette; 04-20-2015 at 06:10 PM.
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Restomods consistantly bring more money than original models. Why do you think so many are being built ? Fuel cars are being parted out which was unheard of ten years ago. Very few originals are going for 125 to 150 which is the norm for restomods. The value is in the body, title, and tags. Everything elso goes to the resale parts ads. Matching numbered engines is almost a mute point. Besides a good engine stamper can make it look so factory experts can't agree.
There is no ego involved with these builders...... just the lust for profit and getting the next one ready for sale. I like originals, and love their creations.
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Anyone still play "PONG" on their television set? Things change and improve. People talking about the great value of original cars still put after market air conditioning into them and radial tires on them.
If you are talking a Duesenburg J model with a one of a kind coach body on it you are talking rare and valuable. When you are talking a mass production car from General Motors be happy someone is interested in the appearance and assigns a value to it.
I enjoy seeing factory original examples of the cars and would not personally take an original car as a candidate for a restomod. When the original running gear is gone I consider it a great improvement to restomod the car rather than to make it a "correct" (who decides what is correct?) car.
If you are talking a Duesenburg J model with a one of a kind coach body on it you are talking rare and valuable. When you are talking a mass production car from General Motors be happy someone is interested in the appearance and assigns a value to it.
I enjoy seeing factory original examples of the cars and would not personally take an original car as a candidate for a restomod. When the original running gear is gone I consider it a great improvement to restomod the car rather than to make it a "correct" (who decides what is correct?) car.
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Anyone still play "PONG" on their television set? Things change and improve. People talking about the great value of original cars still put after market air conditioning into them and radial tires on them.
If you are talking a Duesenburg J model with a one of a kind coach body on it you are talking rare and valuable. When you are talking a mass production car from General Motors be happy someone is interested in the appearance and assigns a value to it.
I enjoy seeing factory original examples of the cars and would not personally take an original car as a candidate for a restomod. When the original running gear is gone I consider it a great improvement to restomod the car rather than to make it a "correct" (who decides what is correct?) car.
If you are talking a Duesenburg J model with a one of a kind coach body on it you are talking rare and valuable. When you are talking a mass production car from General Motors be happy someone is interested in the appearance and assigns a value to it.
I enjoy seeing factory original examples of the cars and would not personally take an original car as a candidate for a restomod. When the original running gear is gone I consider it a great improvement to restomod the car rather than to make it a "correct" (who decides what is correct?) car.
This car I bought last Sept will be a custom/restomod since there was absolutely no way to make it close to original without any drivetrain, dash, etc. It will be SPECVETTE #002 completed next Spring and delivered at the National Corvette Museum. Customs aren't for everyone but at the end of the day a '63 is being saved.
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No problem whatsoever with a basket case being restomodded. I still hate to see a complete, original car torn asunder to be reborn as some fat cat's weenie-extending plaything...
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Someone could buy a '64 coupe for half the money, add a split and a full restomod suspension/engine/interior treatment and have the same car. Or any number of nonstock cars. But buying a perfectly good original drivetrain split window and killing it just makes zero sense to me. There's way too many avenues to get that same restomod you want without doing that.
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Vettebuyer and I are on the same page though. These car buyers don't care a whit about reducing the base of original cars. I should just shut up though....as that base diminishes my cars will be worth more.
I park beside 3 restmods nearly every weekend and have no problem with them. Those guys aren't your typical super-rich buyers. Two of the guys are restorers and one is a grocery chain regional director....the cars IIRC were all project cars to start with.
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I couldnt care less about weenies and dollars, I'm talking about a limited amount of cars that were originally made and there's few of them left. If someone likes restomods, hey man whatever floats your boat. But the very nature of a restomod is that its a custom... meaning there is no good reason... none... to ruin yet one more original car to make one.
Someone could buy a '64 coupe for half the money, add a split and a full restomod suspension/engine/interior treatment and have the same car. Or any number of nonstock cars. But buying a perfectly good original drivetrain split window and killing it just makes zero sense to me. There's way too many avenues to get that same restomod you want without doing that.
Someone could buy a '64 coupe for half the money, add a split and a full restomod suspension/engine/interior treatment and have the same car. Or any number of nonstock cars. But buying a perfectly good original drivetrain split window and killing it just makes zero sense to me. There's way too many avenues to get that same restomod you want without doing that.