Looks like "their" pushing the 'Mid-Engine", again!! for 2017
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Looks like "their" pushing the 'Mid-Engine", again!! for 2017
I like the side/front view but the rear looks "Camaro-ish"...
As for Mid-engine....ehhh!!!
Short article...
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng-for-feature
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As for Mid-engine....ehhh!!!
Short article...
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng-for-feature
Photo Gallery...
http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...-for-feature#1
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The Zora looks plain and not something that will be a car in demand.
The rendering shown above was shown in an earlier thread. I would buy a mid-engine like the one shown in a heart beat.
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. . . And meanwhile, Corvette chief engineer Tadge Juechter has repeatedly said it ain't gonna happen. I'll believe it when - and if - I see it. There is no business model that makes sense for such a car.
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I would agree, yet there is this...
http://www.corvetted.com/gms-439m-pa...up-commentary/
If the mid engine C8 comes about, I would expect it to be a smaller displacement motor, probably turbocahrged. There may be several hundred of a high HP version (expensive) produced early on, but i think those will be limited production,and used as a means for refining future model years where all Corvettes are mid engine. If the Corvette survives past say 2023.
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http://www.corvetted.com/gms-439m-pa...up-commentary/
If the mid engine C8 comes about, I would expect it to be a smaller displacement motor, probably turbocahrged. There may be several hundred of a high HP version (expensive) produced early on, but i think those will be limited production,and used as a means for refining future model years where all Corvettes are mid engine. If the Corvette survives past say 2023.
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I would agree, yet there is this...
http://www.corvetted.com/gms-439m-pa...up-commentary/
If the mid engine C8 comes about, I would expect it to be a smaller displacement motor, probably turbocahrged. There may be several hundred of a high HP version (expensive) produced early on, but i think those will be limited production,and used as a means for refining future model years where all Corvettes are mid engine. If the Corvette survives past say 2023.
Doug.
http://www.corvetted.com/gms-439m-pa...up-commentary/
If the mid engine C8 comes about, I would expect it to be a smaller displacement motor, probably turbocahrged. There may be several hundred of a high HP version (expensive) produced early on, but i think those will be limited production,and used as a means for refining future model years where all Corvettes are mid engine. If the Corvette survives past say 2023.
Doug.
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YAWNnn....
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Well, as always for the last 50 years or so, it will sell a lot of car magazines. They have all always said the same thing, in huge, lurid lettering on their covers: "Is This The Next Corvette?"
And the answer has always been the same.
No. No, it isn't.
And don't get me wrong - I would love to see a mid-engine Corvette get built (and can we please not get started again on the whole "Front-mid-engine, Rear mid-engine" discussion here?) . . . I just don't see any reason for GM to do it. As an answer to the Ford GT? Ford will no doubt sell the small number of them they make, but in my opinion there really isn't a "market" worth pursuing for such a high-priced car. Just for "bragging rights", then, to say they have one too? After the sound of zippers being lowered subsides, the profit & loss realities will remain. GM does not "need" this car, as neat as it may be to have it. It just doesn't make sense. But, given the GM we all know and love, who knows? Stay tuned.
And the answer has always been the same.
No. No, it isn't.
And don't get me wrong - I would love to see a mid-engine Corvette get built (and can we please not get started again on the whole "Front-mid-engine, Rear mid-engine" discussion here?) . . . I just don't see any reason for GM to do it. As an answer to the Ford GT? Ford will no doubt sell the small number of them they make, but in my opinion there really isn't a "market" worth pursuing for such a high-priced car. Just for "bragging rights", then, to say they have one too? After the sound of zippers being lowered subsides, the profit & loss realities will remain. GM does not "need" this car, as neat as it may be to have it. It just doesn't make sense. But, given the GM we all know and love, who knows? Stay tuned.
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Per Car and Driver...
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Ferrari 458 performance at a Porsche 911 Turbo price should send ripples through the blue-blood clique (Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Mercedes-AMG, Porsche). "
Has the C7 sent ripples through the blue-blood clique? High performance at half the price of the Euro types??
Ferrari 458 performance at a Porsche 911 Turbo price should send ripples through the blue-blood clique (Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Lamborghini, Mercedes-AMG, Porsche). "
Has the C7 sent ripples through the blue-blood clique? High performance at half the price of the Euro types??
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So it's a definite "maybe"?..........
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At least it has round tail lights................
in any case, the rear end shown in that rendering looks waaaay too much like a GT-R for my tastes!
WHEN will GM learn to integrate the styling of the rear end with the rear quarter panels on the Corvette? Take a look at the rear of the new XK-F, or any Aston Martin in the past 15 years or so - gorgeous! C5, C6 (I have one), C7 - not so much.....
in any case, the rear end shown in that rendering looks waaaay too much like a GT-R for my tastes!
WHEN will GM learn to integrate the styling of the rear end with the rear quarter panels on the Corvette? Take a look at the rear of the new XK-F, or any Aston Martin in the past 15 years or so - gorgeous! C5, C6 (I have one), C7 - not so much.....
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"Mid engine 2017". Who cares?, these new cars are as ugly as sin. Why not go all the way and make it mid engine while youre at it. They lost me years ago with the transformer looking ,over the top designs.
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It would be hard to make something as beautiful as the original Ford GT (the last 21st century one is just too big, but probably had to be to hold safety gear and pass crash tests?).
But a mid-engine Zora model with equal or better performance than the rumored new Ford, at a traditionally-Corvette bargain price would be a WINNER, IMO.
Take that, Dearborn!
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I would love to see a mid-engine Corvette get built (and can we please not get started again on the whole "Front-mid-engine, Rear mid-engine" discussion here?) . . . I just don't see any reason for GM to do it. As an answer to the Ford GT? Ford will no doubt sell the small number of them they make, but in my opinion there really isn't a "market" worth pursuing for such a high-priced car. Just for "bragging rights", then, to say they have one too? After the sound of zippers being lowered subsides, the profit & loss realities will remain. GM does not "need" this car, as neat as it may be to have it.
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Let's not kid ourselves, price is always important.
I just don't see a mid-engine Corvette doing anything meaningful for GM. Yes, they certainly are capable of doing it. They won't make any money on it, but does that matter? Yes, I think it does. The very finest thing for the continued health and development of the Corvette we all know and love is a healthy GM. Anything that works in opposition to that is not in the Corvette's long-term best interest. And will the enhanced level of performance that a mid-engine Corvette may offer actually be used by the majority of customers (including collectors and speculators) that might buy it? And, realistically, will the Ring times of a mid-engine Corvette be a quantum leap from what is available from the current car? It would certainly be faster - but how much faster?
The cost to GM of developing, producing, marketing and servicing a mid-engine Corvette would have to pass careful scrutiny of the corporate bean counters, weighed against the small potential customer base and unknown warranty costs once they became available to the public. As I said initially, there is no business model where this car makes sense. I'll stick to that.
And I'll also stick to the fact that I would still love to see one, drive one, and yes, possibly even buy one. After all, man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?
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Switching the Corvette brand from Chevrolet to Cadillac has been discussed before. It's certainly do-able, but part of the reason the current Corvette has the excellent price point that it does is because it's a Chevrolet. If we are talking about a significantly more expensive car to begin with (and we certainly are), I can't imagine that producing, marketing and servicing it as a Cadillac would help that at all. Now, some will say that with a car like this, the price isn't important.
Let's not kid ourselves, price is always important.
I just don't see a mid-engine Corvette doing anything meaningful for GM. Yes, they certainly are capable of doing it. They won't make any money on it, but does that matter? Yes, I think it does. The very finest thing for the continued health and development of the Corvette we all know and love is a healthy GM. Anything that works in opposition to that is not in the Corvette's long-term best interest. And will the enhanced level of performance that a mid-engine Corvette may offer actually be used by the majority of customers (including collectors and speculators) that might buy it? And, realistically, will the Ring times of a mid-engine Corvette be a quantum leap from what is available from the current car? It would certainly be faster - but how much faster?
The cost to GM of developing, producing, marketing and servicing a mid-engine Corvette would have to pass careful scrutiny of the corporate bean counters, weighed against the small potential customer base and unknown warranty costs once they became available to the public. As I said initially, there is no business model where this car makes sense. I'll stick to that.
And I'll also stick to the fact that I would still love to see one, drive one, and yes, possibly even buy one. After all, man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?
Let's not kid ourselves, price is always important.
I just don't see a mid-engine Corvette doing anything meaningful for GM. Yes, they certainly are capable of doing it. They won't make any money on it, but does that matter? Yes, I think it does. The very finest thing for the continued health and development of the Corvette we all know and love is a healthy GM. Anything that works in opposition to that is not in the Corvette's long-term best interest. And will the enhanced level of performance that a mid-engine Corvette may offer actually be used by the majority of customers (including collectors and speculators) that might buy it? And, realistically, will the Ring times of a mid-engine Corvette be a quantum leap from what is available from the current car? It would certainly be faster - but how much faster?
The cost to GM of developing, producing, marketing and servicing a mid-engine Corvette would have to pass careful scrutiny of the corporate bean counters, weighed against the small potential customer base and unknown warranty costs once they became available to the public. As I said initially, there is no business model where this car makes sense. I'll stick to that.
And I'll also stick to the fact that I would still love to see one, drive one, and yes, possibly even buy one. After all, man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?