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Old 06-27-2015, 07:54 AM
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Quick question: Can I take the cast iron intake off my recently rebuilt 327/300 hp and drop an AL intake on without having to retune? I put breakerless ignition and the rebuild was dyno'd. I'd do it for cosmetic purposes only as I didn't go with any L79 mods.
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You will have to do something about the coolant bypass fitting in the front. Other then that it's a bolt in deal.
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You will have to do something about the coolant bypass fitting in the front. Other then that it's a bolt in deal.
And what would that something be?
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Originally Posted by Spike66
And what would that something be?
Either cap it off. Or swap out the water pump to a correct L79 one with the bypass fitting.
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Originally Posted by Spike66
Quick question: Can I take the cast iron intake off my recently rebuilt 327/300 hp and drop an AL intake on without having to retune? I put breakerless ignition and the rebuild was dyno'd. I'd do it for cosmetic purposes only as I didn't go with any L79 mods.
if its not a factory aluminum intake hood clearance will be a problem.
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Swapping the intake requires pulling the distributor, so at least part of a tune would be required (setting timing).

I'm not thinking that the difference between an iron and aluminum intake would be enough of a change to require any other tune changes, but I suppose someone more knowledgable might chime in.
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You engine doesn't use a water pump bypass so no problem there.

Just because the intake may not be factory does that mean there will be hood clearance problems.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
You engine doesn't use a water pump bypass so no problem there.

Just because the intake may not be factory does that mean there will be hood clearance problems.
Didn't mention it's a GM L79 AL intake. I didn't think hood clearance entered into the mix. Is the sender, PCV different?
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The L79 intake uses a chrome plated oil fill tube with the PCV attached to it. The cast iron intakes used a black painted steel oil fill tube
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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino
Swapping the intake requires pulling the distributor, so at least part of a tune would be required (setting timing).

I'm not thinking that the difference between an iron and aluminum intake would be enough of a change to require any other tune changes, but I suppose someone more knowledgable might chime in.
I'm considering pulling the distributor anyways prior to installing the engine/trans assembly. Is this a must do? Is there a way to reference the distributor other than marking the intake?
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
The L79 intake uses a chrome plated oil fill tube with the PCV attached to it. The cast iron intakes used a black painted steel oil fill tube
The AL intake has the fill tube in it.
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Originally Posted by Spike66
Didn't mention it's a GM L79 AL intake. I didn't think hood clearance entered into the mix. Is the sender, PCV different?
Plug the hole in the intake for the water pump bypass.
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Originally Posted by Spike66
I'm considering pulling the distributor anyways prior to installing the engine/trans assembly. Is this a must do? Is there a way to reference the distributor other than marking the intake?
No reason to pull the intake I know of.
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Originally Posted by Spike66
I'm considering pulling the distributor anyways prior to installing the engine/trans assembly. Is this a must do? Is there a way to reference the distributor other than marking the intake?
read your service manual. the correct procedure is in there
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Originally Posted by MikeM
Plug the hole in the intake for the water pump bypass.
Isn't there a bypass fitting on top of the L79 water pump? I'm unfamiliar with the L79 plumbing. If there's a bypass on both pumps and intakes, why wouldn't reconnecting fitting to fitting work?
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Originally Posted by MikeM
No reason to pull the intake I know of.
I meant to pull the distributor
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Originally Posted by Spike66
I'm considering pulling the distributor anyways prior to installing the engine/trans assembly. Is this a must do? Is there a way to reference the distributor other than marking the intake?
It's a good idea to remove the distributor prior to installing the engine assembly for clearance and to avoid damage if it hits the firewall. You can reference the distributor to the engine's position by removing the cap and marking the position of the rotor. Are you intending to do this work yourself or just getting info? Pilot Dan

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Originally Posted by Pilot Dan
It's a good idea to remove the distributor prior to installing the engine assembly for clearance and to avoid damage if it hits the firewall. You can reference the distributor to the engine's position by removing the cap and marking the position of the rotor. Are you intending to do this work yourself or just getting info? Pilot Dan
Doing it myself.
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Originally Posted by Spike66
Didn't mention it's a GM L79 AL intake. I didn't think hood clearance entered into the mix. Is the sender, PCV different?
That's new information and so , no, it doesn't...

There are VERY few aluminum non-factory intakes that fit our cars....mostly old school Edelbrocks... I just sold one a few months back
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You will HAVE to pull the distributor to swap intakes....there are two reference points to mark and then its a breeze. Mark the distributor position (normally you would mark it at the intake but the intake will be swapped); a piece of that blue tape on a valve cover in line with the vac advance hose tube fitting aligned via straightedge will do it. Then, in a similar fashion, mark where the rotor is pointing. Do NOT bump the engine over during the swap. All you have to do then is reinsert the distributor according to your marks. JohnZ has written an excellent article on the procedure....if you don't have it, or others, will post it...


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