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OK...now it gets interesting...
Not that big a deal I guess....its just a point of curiosity how these small idiosyncrasies occur.
OK gas pedal and screws coming from LIC. The seat bolts got changed back to original last year. I was pissed to hear the shop lost all the original hardware (bolts) and then put in hardware store (soft) bolts when new rugs got put in. That's how these cars get all hoomie goomied up.
LICS part # 28-41 online catalogue states the pedal spacer is correct for 63-67.
I have previously owned a 65 & 67 and I currently own a 66. I can say with certainty that spacer block did not exist in any of them.
I am at LICS once or twice a month. Next time I am there I will ask Todd what he knows about it.
LICS part # 28-41 online catalogue states the pedal spacer is correct for 63-67.
I have previously owned a 65 & 67 and I currently own a 66. I can say with certainty that spacer block did not exist in any of them.
I am absolutely positively 100% certain that my '67 has never had such a spacer. I am the second owner, since 1971. Interior was all original when I got it, including original carpet.
I forwarded this thread to several '63 experts that I trust their knowledge. Three of them said there was a spacer or the remains of the spacer ON TOP of the carpet. Carpet was cut out the same shape as the spacer.
If you'll look closely at that sheet (UPC 1, sheet B33.00) and the Revision Record, you'll note that the spacer and glue to the floor was added on 12-3-62 per ECR 48656.
If you'll also look at UPC 6, sheet C2.00, you'll note that the two accelerator pedal-to-floor screws changed on 11-23-62 (to accommodate the spacer thickness). The dates shown in the Revision Record aren't the date the change actually occurred on the line - they're the date the Engineering Drafting Room revised the A.I.M. sheet, but it's a good indicator of that change (screws on 11-23-62 and the spacer and glue ten days later).
Last edited by JohnZ; 07-26-2015 at 09:20 PM.
Reason: Reference to floor pan "pocket" removed.
My 63 coupe is second week November and I can't remember any spacer under the pedal, are you certain yours is original?
I was the third owner. The second owner bought the car in 1966. All he did was abuse it. He altered the fenders, adding flares, and drag raced the car from 1967 until I bought the car in 1994. I believe it was original, but not being the original owner means I can not be positive.
If you'll look closely at that sheet (UPC 1, sheet B33.00) and the Revision Record, you'll note that the spacer and glue to the floor was added on 12-3-62 per ECR 48656. The spacer also required a change in the floor pan to create a "pocket" for it.
If you'll also look at UPC 6, sheet C2.00, you'll note that the two accelerator pedal-to-floor screws changed on 11-23-62 (to accommodate the spacer thickness). The dates shown in the Revision Record aren't the date the change actually occurred on the line - they're the date the Engineering Drafting Room revised the A.I.M. sheet, but it's a good indicator of that change (screws on 11-23-62 and the spacer and glue ten days later).
OK -- Now I'm definitely having a '63 "hood block" flashback.
If I interpret your statement correctly my May '63 coupe should have the spacer and longer screws....although I don't know if my picture above represents a "pocket" for the spacer.
Interesting the JG doesn't delve into it this deeply...
I will add what I can.....
I have a February '63 Car with Original and Unmolested Carpet.
I looked Very carefully at the accelerator pedal and see NO signs of a spacer.
The pedal is seated firmly against the heel pad. The carpet has a thin foam backing and has minimal compression.
There is NO "pocket" in the floor pan and the screws stick out about 1/2" on the underside.
Our Feb built '63 didn't have one, I saw no remnants of one and no depression in the floor. The pedal was missing and no front carpet.
So following the AIM I added it, and you're right, it was confusing and time consuming. At first I put it above and looked very wrong. I had to use longer screws and put the spacer below the carpet. It seemed to line up to the accelerator rod better.
I should prob ask the folks on the NCRS forum but I suspect I'll get a similar mix of answers. So I guess its more or less up to the owner if he/she wants to use the spacer set up or not. I doubt it would even come up in judging if the screws appear correct in the pedal.
LICS part # 28-41 online catalogue states the pedal spacer is correct for 63-67.
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True. It also states 28-44A Accelerator pedal swivel rod is unique to 63. 28-44B is for 64-67. Not a smoking gun but I would guess the pedal rod geometry changed requiring the spacer
On a related note I am still chasing a random sticky throttle issue on my 66 and I removed my spacer to get the pedal rod centered on the anti squeak pad.
3) IF I USE THE SPACER than the end of the metal gas pedal rod will
start out (gas pedal NOT depressed) at the extreme inboard lower edge of the nylon slider on the back of the pedal....it JUST makes it on enough to work smoothly...can anybody check their 63 for this?
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Somebody tell FTF the reason his gas pedal doesn't fit the throttle lever with the block in place is because there was a gas pedal change during the '63 model year as well.
Somebody tell FTF the reason his gas pedal doesn't fit the throttle lever with the block in place is because there was a gas pedal change during the '63 model year as well.
Somebody tell FTF the reason his gas pedal doesn't fit the throttle lever with the block in place is because there was a gas pedal change during the '63 model year as well.
Mike,
If there was a change, what is the difference between the two versions?
Mike,
If there was a change, what is the difference between the two versions?
Rich,
I could only speculate.
It was suggested to me by someone who knows about these gas pedal shims that the change in gas pedals had to do with the contact point of the gas pedal anti-squeak pad on the throttle bell crank.
Probably the same reason the shim was added under the carpet.
07-22-2015, 05:04 PM
