EPA is at it again......
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EPA is at it again......
The EPA's proposed regs will make it illegal to modify cars & trucks for "racing".
A proposal by the Environmental Protection Agency could mean bad things for racers and car enthusiasts across the United States. According to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA), the EPA wants to make it illegal to modify your roadgoing car for racing, and could even prohibit the sale of aftermaket parts that mess with emission control devices.
Tucked away in an EPA proposal titled Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2 is a section that indicates this sort of vehicle modification is a violation of the clean air act. Here's the exact wording, found on page 862 of an official EPA document:
EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition.
Full article here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...sema-official/
Plasticman
A proposal by the Environmental Protection Agency could mean bad things for racers and car enthusiasts across the United States. According to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA), the EPA wants to make it illegal to modify your roadgoing car for racing, and could even prohibit the sale of aftermaket parts that mess with emission control devices.
Tucked away in an EPA proposal titled Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2 is a section that indicates this sort of vehicle modification is a violation of the clean air act. Here's the exact wording, found on page 862 of an official EPA document:
EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition.
Full article here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...sema-official/
Plasticman
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I was just going to post this. This is why bypassing the Constitution is so dangerous. We are now having bureaucrats make the laws for us instead of Congress. Those who would give up freedom for security will get neither.
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So many bigger problems in the country and the world, glad they're focusing on modified cars. They'll spend millions to do this, and enforce it but let every terrorist into the country, train them, educate them, then defend their "rights".....Unreal....
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The EPA has outlived its usefulness, everything they set out to do originally, has been accomplished so in order to keep all those bureaucrats employed, they must come up with new things to implement and enforce.
Reduce auto emissions from 1500 PPM HC to say10 PPM HC/mile, so now they want 2 PPM HC per mile, then if that is accomplished, they set it to 1 PPM HC per mile, etc.
Lead in water the same, if they achieved 25 PPB, now they want 10 PPB.
Doug
Reduce auto emissions from 1500 PPM HC to say10 PPM HC/mile, so now they want 2 PPM HC per mile, then if that is accomplished, they set it to 1 PPM HC per mile, etc.
Lead in water the same, if they achieved 25 PPB, now they want 10 PPB.
Doug
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The EPA has outlived its usefulness, everything they set out to do originally, has been accomplished so in order to keep all those bureaucrats employed, they must come up with new things to implement and enforce.
Reduce auto emissions from 1500 PPM HC to say10 PPM HC/mile, so now they want 2 PPM HC per mile, then if that is accomplished, they set it to 1 PPM HC per mile, etc.
Lead in water the same, if they achieved 25 PPB, now they want 10 PPB.
Doug
Reduce auto emissions from 1500 PPM HC to say10 PPM HC/mile, so now they want 2 PPM HC per mile, then if that is accomplished, they set it to 1 PPM HC per mile, etc.
Lead in water the same, if they achieved 25 PPB, now they want 10 PPB.
Doug
Some of things the EPA and its subordinate agencies require are ridiculous. When I worked in an area subject to their regulations we saw many examples of increasingly stringent standards that were unrealistic and impracticable. Two of my "favorite" examples are:
- standards in ppb for metals in sewage discharge that are below the threshold of detectability by state of the art mass spec equipment, accompanied by a discharge permit requirement for certification that the standard has been met.
- standards for sediment in creeks that are below the natural background level occurring from upstream erosion.
Both (and many other similar) requirements were accompanied by the threat of $10,000 per DAY fines if the standards were not met.
The bureaucrats involved in setting such ridiculous standards had no concern for the practicability of their proposed standards......
Here's an interesting way to visualize the scale of parts per million and parts per billion standards -
A part per million is one copper bb in a railroad box car
A part per billion is one copper bb somewhere in a train of a thousand railroad box cars.................
Last edited by tuxnharley; 02-09-2016 at 02:49 PM. Reason: typo
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Some of things the EPA and its subordinate agencies require are ridiculous. When I worked in an area subject to their regulations we saw many examples of increasingly stringent standards that were unrealistic and impracticable. Two of my "favorite" examples are:
- standards in ppb for metals in sewage discharge that are below the threshold of detectability by state of the art mass spec equipment, accompanied by a discharge permit requirement for certification that the standard has been met.
- standards for sediment in creeks that are below the natural background level occurring from upstream erosion.
Both (and many other similar) requirements were accompanied by the threat of $10,000 per DAY fines if the standards were not met.
The bureaucrats involved in setting such ridiculous standards had no concern for the practicability of their proposed standards......
Here's an interesting way to visualize the scale of parts per million and parts per billion standards -
A part per million is one copper bb in a railroad box car
A part per billion is one copper bb somewhere in a train of a thousand railroad box cars.................
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I think that may actually be an FDA standard for the amount of those things that can be in foodstuffs - seriously.
I liked the old miner in West Virginia who worked his claim all by himself - nobody else anywhere around. OSHA required him to have a stretcher near the mine's entrance so he could carry himself out if he was injured
I liked the old miner in West Virginia who worked his claim all by himself - nobody else anywhere around. OSHA required him to have a stretcher near the mine's entrance so he could carry himself out if he was injured
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Like everything else that's wrong with this country, this is most likely Obama's fault.
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[QUOTE=tuxnharley;1591515092]
The bureaucrats involved in setting such ridiculous standards had no concern for the practicability of their proposed standards......
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And then there was the incident in Colorado of EPA contractors drilling into a flooded mine shaft and releasing a torrent of heavy metal contaminated water down the Animas River down into New Mexico. Yep - they are a professional organization - here to protect us.
The bureaucrats involved in setting such ridiculous standards had no concern for the practicability of their proposed standards......
QUOTE]
And then there was the incident in Colorado of EPA contractors drilling into a flooded mine shaft and releasing a torrent of heavy metal contaminated water down the Animas River down into New Mexico. Yep - they are a professional organization - here to protect us.
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This proposed ruling appears to affect ANY vehicle with emissions equipment, not just new cars.
Basically they are saying your cars are their property, not yours.
Doug
Basically they are saying your cars are their property, not yours.
Doug
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Everyone take a deep breath and count to 10.
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars
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Everyone take a deep breath and count to 10.
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars
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And notice what happened to Obama/EPAs new rules on power plants at the Supreme Court yesterday.
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OTE=Plasticman;1591514435]The EPA's proposed regs will make it illegal to modify cars & trucks for "racing".
A proposal by the Environmental Protection Agency could mean bad things for racers and car enthusiasts across the United States. According to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA), the EPA wants to make it illegal to modify your roadgoing car for racing, and could even prohibit the sale of aftermaket parts that mess with emission control devices.
Tucked away in an EPA proposal titled Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2 is a section that indicates this sort of vehicle modification is a violation of the clean air act. Here's the exact wording, found on page 862 of an official EPA document:
EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition.
Full article here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...sema-official/
Plasticman[/QUOTE]
ANOTHER REASON TO VOTE FOR A PATRIOT DONALD TRUMP WHO WILL CUT THIS CRAP
A proposal by the Environmental Protection Agency could mean bad things for racers and car enthusiasts across the United States. According to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA), the EPA wants to make it illegal to modify your roadgoing car for racing, and could even prohibit the sale of aftermaket parts that mess with emission control devices.
Tucked away in an EPA proposal titled Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2 is a section that indicates this sort of vehicle modification is a violation of the clean air act. Here's the exact wording, found on page 862 of an official EPA document:
EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition.
Full article here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...sema-official/
Plasticman[/QUOTE]
ANOTHER REASON TO VOTE FOR A PATRIOT DONALD TRUMP WHO WILL CUT THIS CRAP
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And you don't worry about the mind set and the demonstration of the TOTAL LACK OF COMMON SENSE by bureaucrats who would even PROPOSE such regulations?!? It's okay, take another short nap.
QUOTE=rfn026;1591520449]Everyone take a deep breath and count to 10.
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=rfn026;1591520449]Everyone take a deep breath and count to 10.
This is just alarmist crap put out by SEMA. They go to full panic mode every time they get a chance.
This is probably the least of racing's problems.
Richard Newton
Historic Race Cars[/QUOTE]