reasonable rear disc brakes for 63 with ride tech suspension?
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reasonable rear disc brakes for 63 with ride tech suspension?
I'm putting the ridetech level II suspension on my 63, which came with 4 wheel manual drum brakes.
http://www.ridetech.com/store/1963-1...m-level-2.html
I'm going to use 98Z28 disc brakes up front, with Kore3 brackets.
Is there a reasonable rear disc brake option out there?
I'm only seeing a complete trailing arm system for 1.7K
http://www.ridetech.com/store/1963-1...m-level-2.html
I'm going to use 98Z28 disc brakes up front, with Kore3 brackets.
Is there a reasonable rear disc brake option out there?
I'm only seeing a complete trailing arm system for 1.7K
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I'm putting the ridetech level II suspension on my 63, which came with 4 wheel manual drum brakes.
http://www.ridetech.com/store/1963-1...m-level-2.html
I'm going to use 98Z28 disc brakes up front, with Kore3 brackets.
Is there a reasonable rear disc brake option out there?
I'm only seeing a complete trailing arm system for 1.7K
http://www.ridetech.com/store/1963-1...m-level-2.html
I'm going to use 98Z28 disc brakes up front, with Kore3 brackets.
Is there a reasonable rear disc brake option out there?
I'm only seeing a complete trailing arm system for 1.7K
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I did look at the wilwood site, just now again, and I only see front brake systems for a C2 vette, am I missing something?
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
I did look again, and changed the search to be 67 instead and now I see some. Is there something different between 67 and 63? I'm wondering why it would be listed for one and not the other.
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
And this is about 1.8K
I do have an entire 98Z donor car, and I was looking a bit closer, and I may be able to make those rear brakes work as well, at least for now. I may upgrade brakes later, but spending so much money on so much stuff, trying to save a bit here and there. 4 wheel power disc from a Z will be a HUGE improvement over the 4 wheel manual drums on there now.
I also forgot to mention, I'll likely be running some sort of 17" wheel, but certainly not stock.
Last edited by yzguyfl; 02-10-2016 at 10:46 PM.
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Well I was hoping for less than 1K (hopefully much less) and really not quite looking for a 4 piston rear set up, since I only have the stock 89Z front set up.
I did look at the wilwood site, just now again, and I only see front brake systems for a C2 vette, am I missing something?
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
I did look again, and changed the search to be 67 instead and now I see some. Is there something different between 67 and 63? I'm wondering why it would be listed for one and not the other.
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
And this is about 1.8K
I do have an entire 98Z donor car, and I was looking a bit closer, and I may be able to make those rear brakes work as well, at least for now. I may upgrade brakes later, but spending so much money on so much stuff, trying to save a bit here and there. 4 wheel power disc from a Z will be a HUGE improvement over the 4 wheel manual drums on there now.
I also forgot to mention, I'll likely be running some sort of 17" wheel, but certainly not stock.
I did look at the wilwood site, just now again, and I only see front brake systems for a C2 vette, am I missing something?
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
I did look again, and changed the search to be 67 instead and now I see some. Is there something different between 67 and 63? I'm wondering why it would be listed for one and not the other.
http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...tte&option=C-2
And this is about 1.8K
I do have an entire 98Z donor car, and I was looking a bit closer, and I may be able to make those rear brakes work as well, at least for now. I may upgrade brakes later, but spending so much money on so much stuff, trying to save a bit here and there. 4 wheel power disc from a Z will be a HUGE improvement over the 4 wheel manual drums on there now.
I also forgot to mention, I'll likely be running some sort of 17" wheel, but certainly not stock.
Wildwood used to sell another set for C2 Corvettes using C3 calipers that was much less expensive. I bought that set when I rebuilt my car the first time. I've attached one example from eBay. A search there will yield many results.
I had 17" wheels and diameter was not a problem. The problem was that they're wide and I needed spacers to keep them from rubbing against the inside of my front wheels. Obviously you can plan around that if you haven't bought wheels yet.
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No C3 in your local junk yards or no one parting one out local?
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AAaaaaall C2 and C3 Vintage racers use stock Delco disc brakes. Yes, I use them on my 63 and they are legal, and they WORK!
Are modern Stoptech and Wilwood and Brembo brakes 'better"? Sure they are, but they are expensive and not legal for our class of vintage racing. The important thing is the C2/C3 Delco disc brakes fit under the stock 15" wheels and work fine for actual wheel to wheel racing, so they will be good enough (with modern pad material) for any usage you might want. I do not recommend use of non stock Camaro parts on your 63 Corvette.
Are modern Stoptech and Wilwood and Brembo brakes 'better"? Sure they are, but they are expensive and not legal for our class of vintage racing. The important thing is the C2/C3 Delco disc brakes fit under the stock 15" wheels and work fine for actual wheel to wheel racing, so they will be good enough (with modern pad material) for any usage you might want. I do not recommend use of non stock Camaro parts on your 63 Corvette.
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I bet all C2 and C3 compatible brakes will work with your new suspension setup.
Wildwood used to sell another set for C2 Corvettes using C3 calipers that was much less expensive. I bought that set when I rebuilt my car the first time. I've attached one example from eBay. A search there will yield many results.
I had 17" wheels and diameter was not a problem. The problem was that they're wide and I needed spacers to keep them from rubbing against the inside of my front wheels. Obviously you can plan around that if you haven't bought wheels yet.
Wildwood used to sell another set for C2 Corvettes using C3 calipers that was much less expensive. I bought that set when I rebuilt my car the first time. I've attached one example from eBay. A search there will yield many results.
I had 17" wheels and diameter was not a problem. The problem was that they're wide and I needed spacers to keep them from rubbing against the inside of my front wheels. Obviously you can plan around that if you haven't bought wheels yet.
Tom
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Actually . . . no, they won't!!! I looked at the Ride Tech suspension a few months ago and was put off by the fact that none of my stock brakes will work with their set up! Their kits require a complete set of aftermarket brakes! It's gets pretty expensive when you have to replace all of the brakes in addition to the new suspension!
Tom
Tom
I agree that for all that money and then having to replace stock brakes and wheels is a bit over the top...actually the money creeps up high enough it starts to make an SRIII chassis look like a better deal.
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Tom is right...there is a post from the ride tech guys and they outline what brake components are compatible...I can't remember the details but its a hodge podge of Chevelle or Camaro parts that can be used.
I agree that for all that money and then having to replace stock brakes and wheels is a bit over the top...actually the money creeps up high enough it starts to make an SRIII chassis look like a better deal.
I agree that for all that money and then having to replace stock brakes and wheels is a bit over the top...actually the money creeps up high enough it starts to make an SRIII chassis look like a better deal.
Bill
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Bill you are right on the wheels...that part was an assumption that the guys running this kind of setup would automatically want newer/ wider wheels...I should have clarified.
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first I don't think I have ever seen a C3 in a junk yard second, this is part of what I'm asking, C3 rear brakes will fit a C2 trailing arm? (I know the frame is largely the same, but not sure about other suspension components) Stock C3 rear discs may be an option if that will work.
AAaaaaall C2 and C3 Vintage racers use stock Delco disc brakes. Yes, I use them on my 63 and they are legal, and they WORK!
Are modern Stoptech and Wilwood and Brembo brakes 'better"? Sure they are, but they are expensive and not legal for our class of vintage racing. The important thing is the C2/C3 Delco disc brakes fit under the stock 15" wheels and work fine for actual wheel to wheel racing, so they will be good enough (with modern pad material) for any usage you might want.
Are modern Stoptech and Wilwood and Brembo brakes 'better"? Sure they are, but they are expensive and not legal for our class of vintage racing. The important thing is the C2/C3 Delco disc brakes fit under the stock 15" wheels and work fine for actual wheel to wheel racing, so they will be good enough (with modern pad material) for any usage you might want.
yeah, I'm pretty sure 69ttop502 is correct, that the front won't work, but the rears will. I did not care a great deal, as I knew I was changing them up anyway.
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I hear you Crunch. I have the Ridetech rear system on the way for my 69. I would have done front also if I could have used stock spindles and brakes. I am one of those 15 inch wheel guys for these cars so no big brakes and wheels for me. Will eventually go to the Avon tires to enjoy the suspension improvements.
To the OP, any C2 or C3 rear disc system, bearing carrier and caliper bracket will work with the Ridetech rear trailing arms. Look at Van Steel.
To the OP, any C2 or C3 rear disc system, bearing carrier and caliper bracket will work with the Ridetech rear trailing arms. Look at Van Steel.
Last edited by 69ttop502; 02-12-2016 at 08:29 AM.
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Yes, for the rear, you need the entire C3 trailing arm and suspension, hub carrier etc, OR aftermarket trailing arm (Vansteel, Duntov etc) for the "bracket" you mentioned to carry the disc brake caliper.
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are the hub and carrier different between the 2?
I think I have something.
stock used rear brake caliper brackets $70
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C3-Corvette-...dWs3m8&vxp=mtr
new backing plate, hardware and parking brake shoes $137
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-C3-...lVJqSW&vxp=mtr
R & L calipers $165 each
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-1982-C2...xUf3mL&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-1982-C2...xUf3mL&vxp=mtr
Many stockish replacement rotors and pads to choose from, around $100
for a total price of about $650!
am I missing anything? Is there any reason this would not work?
anything that won't fit or missing?
especially small parts, like I think I still need the bolts that hold the caliper to the brackets, but I assume that is hard mounted, and just a normal grade 8 bolt right?
are there spring clips on the pads with these? (normally something there to keep them from rattling)
I'll look around at other places and prices, but so far this is looking good.
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from the pictures I have seen (granted not the best to go by, but that is why I am asking ) it looks like I could just bolt on the stock caliper brackets onto what I have now.
I also looked around the van steel site, and so far am only seeing the whole trailing arm assembly, complete with disc brakes, for over 2K. I don't see any components. (I'll probably call them to chat for a bit and see what they have to say)
I have the ridetech trailing arm, and I am using that for sure, so I'd rather not pay for another one if I don't have to.
#17
talked to Van Steel, and according to them the spindle is thicker for the disc brakes so I can't use mine (if going to a stockish setup).
I'd need spindles added to my list, but otherwise it would be the same. The trailing arm and carrier would work (but of course need the bearings replaced).
I could send them my carrier, and have them put in new bearings and spindle, and send me all the conversion parts I need (minus rotors) to bolt onto my trailing arms, for around $1.5K
I'd need spindles added to my list, but otherwise it would be the same. The trailing arm and carrier would work (but of course need the bearings replaced).
I could send them my carrier, and have them put in new bearings and spindle, and send me all the conversion parts I need (minus rotors) to bolt onto my trailing arms, for around $1.5K