Future of the NCRS.......
03-20-2016, 03:34 PM
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If any thing it's the cost of getting a car to a venue is the hardest part of NCRS. the same thing can be said about the judges them self if they choose to participate in any of the events across the states and even world wide.
03-20-2016, 03:38 PM
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I'm not at home and don't have the Spring Restorer so not sure what the financial situation is but reading between the lines makes me think its not wholesome...that would be too bad...
03-20-2016, 03:45 PM
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Like you said you find your self getting out of things to be with family. I'm sure the same can be said about the senior members. Plus how many times can you see the same old cars and still get joy out of it. When you make your hobby your life how much fun can it really be.
03-20-2016, 04:04 PM
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it was mentioned that a pension was offered. I am a NCRS member, but found no place to ask such a question on the NCRS site. is it true that a person could receive a pension from the NCRS?
03-20-2016, 04:07 PM
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I thought NCRS was a non profit Organization. Am I wrong
03-20-2016, 04:17 PM
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There are plenty of non-profits that have pensions and retirement plans for senior management; the Red Cross is one example...
03-20-2016, 04:19 PM
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03-20-2016, 04:23 PM
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03-20-2016, 04:41 PM
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They are also providing matching funds for the chapters for local charities, as well as supporting an NCRS Foundation and Scholarship Fund.
Some NCRS positions are paid positions. Also printing and postage costs have increased. Attendance is down as well as new/renewal memberships.
But I am sure there are also a number of other reasons I don't know about. We will just have to wait and see.
Larry
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03-20-2016, 04:44 PM
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It was said years ago, "the NCRS is a publication company", this leads me to believe that publication sales along with judging participation are the direct problems. Smaller income with the large expenses that grew over time. Took a car club and turned it into a corporation=doom....
This is of course all assumption, and we all know what they say about assuming....
03-20-2016, 04:56 PM
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03-20-2016, 05:09 PM
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While I personally think the whole "judging" thing with this outfit it completely over the top, it does provide good info on what was original. If you care. Some do. Look , 1: there is only so many cars out there to judge. 2: the bar has gotten so high (in judging) that most people who are curious and go see a meet or whatever go into Whiskey Tango Foxtrot mode right off the bat. 3: the average age of the members is well over 60. Im not far off myself, but younger car nuts just don't get off on this uber originality crap. My bet is that its run its course and its probably pretty much over. Why is anybody shocked? Things change. Peoples interests change. Resto Mod cars are hot as hell now. Its what the Gen X people like. Its their turn.
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03-20-2016, 05:22 PM
#33
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As long as there is a market for original Corvettes, there will always be a place for the NCRS. Just look as sales prices of NCRS Top Flight cars compared to similar cars that have not been judged. Just because the majority of participating members is over 65 doesn't mean new retirees won't take their place as the years go on. It has always been an older man's sport, few have time to restore cars while they are raising children and working long hours.
03-20-2016, 05:57 PM
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Sales prices of TF Corvettes doesn't address the 'financial situation' of the NCRS. Unrelated.
Older man's sport is right and we'll have to see if some cadre of 65 year olds is waiting in the wings to step in. I turn 65 in two months and have been shedding professional and volunteer duties rapidly to spend more time with family, etc..
Older man's sport is right and we'll have to see if some cadre of 65 year olds is waiting in the wings to step in. I turn 65 in two months and have been shedding professional and volunteer duties rapidly to spend more time with family, etc..
03-20-2016, 06:11 PM
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03-20-2016, 06:55 PM
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I did give you a hint! Let's see if it turns out like what I said happened in the thread that got closed.
Occasionally, a bottle with a note on it floats down the Ohio River from Cincinnati and has the latest news written on it. It could have been a plant though.
PS. Maybe that long time member that has been demanding an audit on the books will finally get his wish?
Occasionally, a bottle with a note on it floats down the Ohio River from Cincinnati and has the latest news written on it. It could have been a plant though.
PS. Maybe that long time member that has been demanding an audit on the books will finally get his wish?
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03-20-2016, 07:29 PM
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Try for some perspective: 1>Start with 14,500 members each year paying at least $45 dues; 2> You give NOTHING away for free except the Restorer & Driveline; 3> Plus you sell ads in the Driveline at __,000 per issue income; 4> Events virtually pay for themselves through fees, t-shirts, etc.; 5> Every publication, AIM, model car, etc. must be being sold at a profit because the buyer is paying shipping costs and yet in 7 of the last 8 years (exact # may be incorrect), you LOSE MONEY? You don't have to be a CPA to make a List of questions.
03-20-2016, 07:46 PM
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And "possibly" exhorbitant wages added to it...
03-20-2016, 08:08 PM
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I did give you a hint! Let's see if it turns out like what I said happened in the thread that got closed.
Occasionally, a bottle with a note on it floats down the Ohio River from Cincinnati and has the latest news written on it. It could have been a plant though.
PS. Maybe that long time member that has been demanding an audit on the books will finally get his wish?
Occasionally, a bottle with a note on it floats down the Ohio River from Cincinnati and has the latest news written on it. It could have been a plant though.
PS. Maybe that long time member that has been demanding an audit on the books will finally get his wish?
John 8:32 "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”