(Poll) restomod or era correct 57 corvette
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(Poll) restomod or era correct 57 corvette
Ok where do I start ...... A few months ago I made a post on this forum requesting information and advice on several cars a gentleman had in his possession , 5 of them being corvettes . To make this story short I purchased a 57 corvette that had been in the weather for 30 plus years . I started a search for a replacement oem frame ( as the original was rusted though ) and at that time turned up nothing . So I decided to do a restomod mainly because of the rusted frame and non original drivetrain (except rear end )and since I already have a LS1 corvette engine and a 4L60E transmission I purchased a 94 c4 donor with front and rear suspension got in line for a corvette correction frame and my restomod seamed even more evident . Now my delima you see I've done a couple restomods ( 69 Camaro Ls1 6 sp and a 57 Chevy HT) and enjoyed doing them , but there a lot of work fitting and reengineering that goes into one even with all the aftermarket parts that are available these days . And after doing these two maybe I'm just ready for a easier restoration , with just bolt on and off stuff for a while . Added to injury I've located and purchased a great looking oem used frame now from the guys at Corvette Central . I also have located a 57 283 block and crank (correct casting but the owner couldn't verify the suffix for a vette ) 100 miles away and same guy has a set of heads that are 57 corvette correct numbers . That still leaves some parts to locate like the carb , intake (member gbvette62 may have one of these ) , and transmission 3 or 4 speed . I thought of posting wtb in the parts section but didnt want to until I made my mind up for sure which way to go . How hard are these parts to find ? What years will fit ? Should I try to keep it era correct ? Should I only use 57 parts ? Would I be better off just buying a new crate motor and doing a 5 speed ? I know most people will say what ever you want to do but what's the best ? I don't post a lot but I sure have read a lot and have developed a great deal of respect for many of the c1 forum members .This forum has a wealth of information and lots of opinions and thus the reason for my poll . I know this will probably never be a ncrs car but with a good restoration it will still be a 57 corvette with many more miles of smiles left in it ! Thanks respectively nrbc7any response would be appreciated
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Well, my decision was easy when I bought my '57 project 16 months ago, because I wanted to replicate my 1st Corvette (1st car for that matter) that I drove when I was young. Same colors, but this car had no drivetrain. I was always going to make it a "day 2" car, with Cragar SS wheels like I had on it back in the day, and I had all intentions of building a 302 small block for it as my old car had at the time I sold it. That idea did change after looking at a lot of cars online for sale. Seems that a car with a "correct" 283 has a higher value than a comparable car with say, a 350 engine. Even though I had already started gathering parts for the 302 build, I stumbled across a '57 283 with the 2x4 setup dated a few weeks before my car. I love the look of the 2x4 carbs, so I had that engine rebuilt instead. Actually, after boring it, it's only 6 cubes shy of my goal anyway. I am going to use a Muncie 4-speed I had sitting on the bench. Everything else will pretty much be stock '57 stuff. I will be ready to drop the body back on the restored chassis in a couple of weeks. I am doing most of the work myself.
As far as a restomod goes, I probably don't have the skills to do a lot of that myself, and it would be cost prohibitive. Plus, I just wanted a car like I had 40 years ago, I don't want to re-invent the wheel here. I wouldn't be opposed to doing it on another car (maybe my SWC?) but not this car. Don't know if any of this helps you, but good luck with it whichever way you go.
Rich
As far as a restomod goes, I probably don't have the skills to do a lot of that myself, and it would be cost prohibitive. Plus, I just wanted a car like I had 40 years ago, I don't want to re-invent the wheel here. I wouldn't be opposed to doing it on another car (maybe my SWC?) but not this car. Don't know if any of this helps you, but good luck with it whichever way you go.
Rich
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In my opinion, the 56-57 Corvettes are a milestone car when it comes to styling. I have seen some restomods of a '57 that were done quite well but I still prefer the stock look on those two years.
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Well, my decision was easy when I bought my '57 project 16 months ago, because I wanted to replicate my 1st Corvette (1st car for that matter) that I drove when I was young. Same colors, but this car had no drivetrain. I was always going to make it a "day 2" car, with Cragar SS wheels like I had on it back in the day, and I had all intentions of building a 302 small block for it as my old car had at the time I sold it. That idea did change after looking at a lot of cars online for sale. Seems that a car with a "correct" 283 has a higher value than a comparable car with say, a 350 engine. Even though I had already started gathering parts for the 302 build, I stumbled across a '57 283 with the 2x4 setup dated a few weeks before my car. I love the look of the 2x4 carbs, so I had that engine rebuilt instead. Actually, after boring it, it's only 6 cubes shy of my goal anyway. I am going to use a Muncie 4-speed I had sitting on the bench. Everything else will pretty much be stock '57 stuff. I will be ready to drop the body back on the restored chassis in a couple of weeks. I am doing most of the work myself.
As far as a restomod goes, I probably don't have the skills to do a lot of that myself, and it would be cost prohibitive. Plus, I just wanted a car like I had 40 years ago, I don't want to re-invent the wheel here. I wouldn't be opposed to doing it on another car (maybe my SWC?) but not this car. Don't know if any of this helps you, but good luck with it whichever way you go.
Rich
As far as a restomod goes, I probably don't have the skills to do a lot of that myself, and it would be cost prohibitive. Plus, I just wanted a car like I had 40 years ago, I don't want to re-invent the wheel here. I wouldn't be opposed to doing it on another car (maybe my SWC?) but not this car. Don't know if any of this helps you, but good luck with it whichever way you go.
Rich
Last edited by nrbc7; 04-30-2016 at 08:37 PM.
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I too love the 57 styling and even thru my research on restomods wanted to keep the original look with intentions of doing the deluxe wheels as they're 20" but have the wide white walls built into the rims .
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I did go back and forth on the brake decision and I am going with the stock drums for now, as most of the parts were there. I do already have the dual master cylinder on the shelf for the future front disc upgrade.
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How about a "retro" restomod that looks somewhat period correct?
Small block, 5 speed, brakes that stop, modern rubber with "old school" 17" wheels, something along those lines. I've even seen a Ram Jet with the plenum moved to the side of the manifold so it looked like Corvette FI. The only limitations are imagination and budget.
Good luck with what ever you decide.
Small block, 5 speed, brakes that stop, modern rubber with "old school" 17" wheels, something along those lines. I've even seen a Ram Jet with the plenum moved to the side of the manifold so it looked like Corvette FI. The only limitations are imagination and budget.
Good luck with what ever you decide.
#10
Drifting
Depends on what you want. If it were me and I was looking for an easier to do, fun machine, I'd probably do a connect and cruise LSA with a SRIII chassis.
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...ruise-lsa.html
http://sriiimotorsports.com/
If you wanted to go the easiest route, there are folks out there (SRIII is one) who will do a turn key project.
But again, it's what you want and can afford.
-- Joe
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...ruise-lsa.html
http://sriiimotorsports.com/
If you wanted to go the easiest route, there are folks out there (SRIII is one) who will do a turn key project.
But again, it's what you want and can afford.
-- Joe
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How about a "retro" restomod that looks somewhat period correct?
Small block, 5 speed, brakes that stop, modern rubber with "old school" 17" wheels, something along those lines. I've even seen a Ram Jet with the plenum moved to the side of the manifold so it looked like Corvette FI. The only limitations are imagination and budget.
Good luck with what ever you decide.
Small block, 5 speed, brakes that stop, modern rubber with "old school" 17" wheels, something along those lines. I've even seen a Ram Jet with the plenum moved to the side of the manifold so it looked like Corvette FI. The only limitations are imagination and budget.
Good luck with what ever you decide.
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Depends on what you want. If it were me and I was looking for an easier to do, fun machine, I'd probably do a connect and cruise LSA with a SRIII chassis.
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...ruise-lsa.html
http://sriiimotorsports.com/
If you wanted to go the easiest route, there are folks out there (SRIII is one) who will do a turn key project.
But again, it's what you want and can afford.
-- Joe
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...ruise-lsa.html
http://sriiimotorsports.com/
If you wanted to go the easiest route, there are folks out there (SRIII is one) who will do a turn key project.
But again, it's what you want and can afford.
-- Joe
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For what it's worth, I say keep it as reasonably stock as possible; I've never heard "I can't believe he left it original".
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The "best "way you asked about is the one that you really feel youll be happy with theres no right answer from us
Why not do something simple, affordable fun and not follow the trends? A true to life driver sounds like youve done the bux up thing and are still hunting
(could always disguise a 396 or 421sbc +5 spd as a 283/4spd with headers!)
Too many overdone ones around-
Everyones different.
Just have fun and follow through on your vision not what the internet tells you is cool, correct or anything else.
Why not do something simple, affordable fun and not follow the trends? A true to life driver sounds like youve done the bux up thing and are still hunting
(could always disguise a 396 or 421sbc +5 spd as a 283/4spd with headers!)
Too many overdone ones around-
Everyones different.
Just have fun and follow through on your vision not what the internet tells you is cool, correct or anything else.
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It doesn't sound like you'll drive this car very much. In light of that, most mechanical upgrades are difficult to justify.
So it needs an engine, frame, and paint? Fairly complete otherwise? A 283 (548 blocks are still fairly easy to find) and a BW or Muncie 4 speed (skip the 3 speed) are pretty easy, too. If '57 correct stuff is available, get that, but don't let anyone gouge you too bad. Period-correct would due, except for the engine. Standard '57 brakes stop the car just fine, unless you're going to the track or you're going to run it fast a lot in very hot weather. The dual chamber master cylinder/front disc conversion is nice, but probably not necessary. Rebuild the stock suspension. Rebuild and use the stock steering. A '57 Corvette is a milestone car. If there's much of it left, it should be kept stock.
I know many of the guys on this forum love restomods. Even I like some of them. It's not much different than the guys that revised them when they were just a few years old; it's just today's version. But what about 5-10 years from now when engines and chassis set-ups are much better? Time for another update, I guess. And you could say "even if I don't update it again, it'll still run circles around your more or less stock '57." True. Good point.
Maybe it just comes down to what one appreciates about these old cars. For me it's the history. All of the things this car has been through, and all the memories created in it by it's previous owners. Things I don't even know about that make it cool. Even though my car is considerably different than it was when it left the factory, it's much the same as it was when it left the racetrack in about 1969. I wish there was another NCRS or car show class that was for "cars left the same as their owners made them 5-10 years after manufacture".
Maybe all of that is off topic, but my point is that while there is always room for different tastes in the Corvette hobby, there's a solid core that appreciates cars that are more or less stock... or at least "old school". Since you seem concerned about long term value, I think this is a good way to go. I know there are some big money guys into restomods right now, but there's still pretty good money in stock cars, too. And that appreciation has been around longer.
So it needs an engine, frame, and paint? Fairly complete otherwise? A 283 (548 blocks are still fairly easy to find) and a BW or Muncie 4 speed (skip the 3 speed) are pretty easy, too. If '57 correct stuff is available, get that, but don't let anyone gouge you too bad. Period-correct would due, except for the engine. Standard '57 brakes stop the car just fine, unless you're going to the track or you're going to run it fast a lot in very hot weather. The dual chamber master cylinder/front disc conversion is nice, but probably not necessary. Rebuild the stock suspension. Rebuild and use the stock steering. A '57 Corvette is a milestone car. If there's much of it left, it should be kept stock.
I know many of the guys on this forum love restomods. Even I like some of them. It's not much different than the guys that revised them when they were just a few years old; it's just today's version. But what about 5-10 years from now when engines and chassis set-ups are much better? Time for another update, I guess. And you could say "even if I don't update it again, it'll still run circles around your more or less stock '57." True. Good point.
Maybe it just comes down to what one appreciates about these old cars. For me it's the history. All of the things this car has been through, and all the memories created in it by it's previous owners. Things I don't even know about that make it cool. Even though my car is considerably different than it was when it left the factory, it's much the same as it was when it left the racetrack in about 1969. I wish there was another NCRS or car show class that was for "cars left the same as their owners made them 5-10 years after manufacture".
Maybe all of that is off topic, but my point is that while there is always room for different tastes in the Corvette hobby, there's a solid core that appreciates cars that are more or less stock... or at least "old school". Since you seem concerned about long term value, I think this is a good way to go. I know there are some big money guys into restomods right now, but there's still pretty good money in stock cars, too. And that appreciation has been around longer.
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The "best "way you asked about is the one that you really feel youll be happy with theres no right answer from us
Why not do something simple, affordable fun and not follow the trends? A true to life driver sounds like youve done the bux up thing and are still hunting
(could always disguise a 396 or 421sbc +5 spd as a 283/4spd with headers!)
Too many overdone ones around-
Everyones different.
Just have fun and follow through on your vision not what the internet tells you is cool, correct or anything else.
Why not do something simple, affordable fun and not follow the trends? A true to life driver sounds like youve done the bux up thing and are still hunting
(could always disguise a 396 or 421sbc +5 spd as a 283/4spd with headers!)
Too many overdone ones around-
Everyones different.
Just have fun and follow through on your vision not what the internet tells you is cool, correct or anything else.
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Yes I checked on the gm crate engine 3 year I think 36,000 mile warranty for $1459. Not really looking for high horsepower mostly dependability plus add pertronix into the original distributor , only thing was the oil draft breather tube goes under the intake and exit thru intake and down the back of the engine anyone ever deal with this on a 350 crate engine other than eliminate it and do a pcv Also creates a problem using the original 7 fin aluminum valve covers plus the bolts are offset on the old heads compared to straight across on newer heads .
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...-needed-2.html
I hope this helps give you some ideas.
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It doesn't sound like you'll drive this car very much. In light of that, most mechanical upgrades are difficult to justify.
So it needs an engine, frame, and paint? Fairly complete otherwise? A 283 (548 blocks are still fairly easy to find) and a BW or Muncie 4 speed (skip the 3 speed) are pretty easy, too. If '57 correct stuff is available, get that, but don't let anyone gouge you too bad. Period-correct would due, except for the engine. Standard '57 brakes stop the car just fine, unless you're going to the track or you're going to run it fast a lot in very hot weather. The dual chamber master cylinder/front disc conversion is nice, but probably not necessary. Rebuild the stock suspension. Rebuild and use the stock steering. A '57 Corvette is a milestone car. If there's much of it left, it should be kept stock.
I know many of the guys on this forum love restomods. Even I like some of them. It's not much different than the guys that revised them when they were just a few years old; it's just today's version. But what about 5-10 years from now when engines and chassis set-ups are much better? Time for another update, I guess. And you could say "even if I don't update it again, it'll still run circles around your more or less stock '57." True. Good point.
Maybe it just comes down to what one appreciates about these old cars. For me it's the history. All of the things this car has been through, and all the memories created in it by it's previous owners. Things I don't even know about that make it cool. Even though my car is considerably different than it was when it left the factory, it's much the same as it was when it left the racetrack in about 1969. I wish there was another NCRS or car show class that was for "cars left the same as their owners made them 5-10 years after manufacture".
Maybe all of that is off topic, but my point is that while there is always room for different tastes in the Corvette hobby, there's a solid core that appreciates cars that are more or less stock... or at least "old school". Since you seem concerned about long term value, I think this is a good way to go. I know there are some big money guys into restomods right now, but there's still pretty good money in stock cars, too. And that appreciation has been around longer.
So it needs an engine, frame, and paint? Fairly complete otherwise? A 283 (548 blocks are still fairly easy to find) and a BW or Muncie 4 speed (skip the 3 speed) are pretty easy, too. If '57 correct stuff is available, get that, but don't let anyone gouge you too bad. Period-correct would due, except for the engine. Standard '57 brakes stop the car just fine, unless you're going to the track or you're going to run it fast a lot in very hot weather. The dual chamber master cylinder/front disc conversion is nice, but probably not necessary. Rebuild the stock suspension. Rebuild and use the stock steering. A '57 Corvette is a milestone car. If there's much of it left, it should be kept stock.
I know many of the guys on this forum love restomods. Even I like some of them. It's not much different than the guys that revised them when they were just a few years old; it's just today's version. But what about 5-10 years from now when engines and chassis set-ups are much better? Time for another update, I guess. And you could say "even if I don't update it again, it'll still run circles around your more or less stock '57." True. Good point.
Maybe it just comes down to what one appreciates about these old cars. For me it's the history. All of the things this car has been through, and all the memories created in it by it's previous owners. Things I don't even know about that make it cool. Even though my car is considerably different than it was when it left the factory, it's much the same as it was when it left the racetrack in about 1969. I wish there was another NCRS or car show class that was for "cars left the same as their owners made them 5-10 years after manufacture".
Maybe all of that is off topic, but my point is that while there is always room for different tastes in the Corvette hobby, there's a solid core that appreciates cars that are more or less stock... or at least "old school". Since you seem concerned about long term value, I think this is a good way to go. I know there are some big money guys into restomods right now, but there's still pretty good money in stock cars, too. And that appreciation has been around longer.
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Here are a few pictures of a early 54 (vin003X) that I hot rodded years ago.
I bought it with a V8 in it and some the good stuff gone.
So I painted it silver anniversary colors, Hartz cloth top, black 62 seats and a California 305 V8.
All of the running gear and body was preserved just in case someone wanted to restore it to original. The guy I sold it to totally screwed it up. Painted it obnoxious yellow, white interior, big engine, etc. His body shop threw away the original shifter, the top flippers and other stuff.
But it was his car and he did it to suit his taste (or tastelessness).
So do it the way you want it, enjoy it and drive it a lot.
Bruce B
I bought it with a V8 in it and some the good stuff gone.
So I painted it silver anniversary colors, Hartz cloth top, black 62 seats and a California 305 V8.
All of the running gear and body was preserved just in case someone wanted to restore it to original. The guy I sold it to totally screwed it up. Painted it obnoxious yellow, white interior, big engine, etc. His body shop threw away the original shifter, the top flippers and other stuff.
But it was his car and he did it to suit his taste (or tastelessness).
So do it the way you want it, enjoy it and drive it a lot.
Bruce B
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