What does the digit "3" in front of GM on this 870 engine block number mean?
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What does the digit "3" in front of GM on this 870 engine block number mean?
What does the number "3" right in front of GMon this 870 engine block mean?
Does it mean that this engine block is casted in 1963?
Or does it mean shift 3 or something like that?
Does it mean that this engine block is casted in 1963?
Or does it mean shift 3 or something like that?
Last edited by TheSaint; 05-27-2016 at 06:24 PM.
#2
Just off I think the time dials on right of
Casting number came after 63
Casting number came after 63
Last edited by rtruman; 05-27-2016 at 06:28 PM.
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That's the pattern number, used at the foundry for internal traceability on high-volume castings that use multiple patterns.
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Burning Brakes
Well, it would appear that either someone doesn't know what they are talking about, or someone has gone through a lot of trouble to change a bare block that's worth a few hundred bucks, because below is a pic of the area with date on the same block. Can you provide documentation that 1963 blocks did not have the clock on them, or is this just hearsay you are repeating?
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Well, it would appear that either someone doesn't know what they are talking about, or someone has gone through a lot of trouble to change a bare block that's worth a few hundred bucks, because below is a pic of the area with date on the same block. Can you provide documentation that 1963 blocks did not have the clock on them, or is this just hearsay you are repeating?
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Well, it would appear that either someone doesn't know what they are talking about, or someone has gone through a lot of trouble to change a bare block that's worth a few hundred bucks, because below is a pic of the area with date on the same block. Can you provide documentation that 1963 blocks did not have the clock on them, or is this just hearsay you are repeating?
#11
I may not remember what I ate for dinner last night but for some reason while helping judge 63's sometime in the mid 90's I vividly remember the team leader ripping somebodys motor for having that clock. I never forgot that for some reason. Maybe he was off his rocker but I doubt it. I havent been involved in that crap in decades but like I said, I remember one car getting hammered on that clock deal. Maybe the rules have changed in 20 years and now its been proven to be BS. Maybe someone whos into that stuff now can chime in.
Last edited by rtruman; 05-30-2016 at 06:44 PM.
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Team Owner
Here is my May 29th car's block... No 'time dial' but the date is clear...
My block also has the "3" on it...
My block also has the "3" on it...
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 05-30-2016 at 09:48 PM.
#17
Look at vin number if you don't want to post it
that's ok but 63 motors the vin should start with a 3 I bet your vin
number starts with a 4 for a 64 corvette
Last edited by rtruman; 05-30-2016 at 08:33 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Here's one of several 1963 327s with "clock". This one is said to be Engine Block: 3782870. Casting date J-13-3 October 13, 1963, by seller. I see the "4" that rtruman was pointing out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Chevrol...ZXLpKi&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Chevrol...ZXLpKi&vxp=mtr
Last edited by VeroWing; 05-30-2016 at 08:39 PM.
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Here's one of several 1963 327s with "clock". This one is said to be Engine Block: 3782870. Casting date J-13-3 October 13, 1963, by seller.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Chevrol...ZXLpKi&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Chevrol...ZXLpKi&vxp=mtr