66 Big Block purchasing advice
#21
Racer
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First off a Top Flight is a different beast between a regional and a local chapter so beware. The local chapter is a friendly look-see. many times with judges with limited experience and the judging is less stringent; a regional is a different beast and many times the judges at regionals are national level. Secondly, the judging (as stated above) only judges the stamp pad as 'factory appearing'; they make no claims the engine is the 'born with' motor.
These cars are heavily (and fraudulently) faked because of their desirability and price tags. So all of the above is good advice..
These cars are heavily (and fraudulently) faked because of their desirability and price tags. So all of the above is good advice..
#22
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I will say this there is nothing wrong with owing and buying a fake BB mid year. as long as you pay the right price that is the key. numbers matching and paper work wont make the car drive any better. that is unless you want to buy a "investment" or "museum" type car you will never drive. if you intend to drive the car a NOM might be a better choice. I would prefer a NOM with paper work vs a looks to be a real stamp with no paper work. It might help if you disclose your location so maybe someone local to you can help or we can point you to someone.
#23
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Agree, if you add location to your profile, there may be some good comparables in your area. If you are in central Florida, I would be happy to have you look at my Survivor Top Flight with all the documentation as a reference. That would give you a good starting point. You might not find all the characteristics in another car, but would show what is important in a personal setting.
#24
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66 Big Block
I agree but I've yet to see a really well priced fake BB. I have full intention on driving it and I may be wrong but I just feel that I'll have better luck selling the numbers matching down the road? I appreciate your comment on the NOM with paperwork vs a looks to be real stamp with no paperwork. Definitely food for thought! I'm located West Coast near Seattle. Thanks
I know where a nice , white, 4 Speed, convertible Big Block is For Sale near me,
By the most reputable Corvette Man I know..
He is the only person to have touched my car in the 10 years I have had it.
I love mine, and you are on the right track!!
Good luck and PM me if you would like.
Cheerio,
Zale
#25
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I told my friend to join the forum, which he did, to list his 66 427/425 4spd:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...oupe-4spd.html
What do you see wrong with it? Are these BB cars just not getting the prices any more? it is in the Northeast if you want to stop by.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...oupe-4spd.html
What do you see wrong with it? Are these BB cars just not getting the prices any more? it is in the Northeast if you want to stop by.
In regards to prices. My personal opinion is that they're a lot of optimistic Sellers out there. I'd be interested to know how many of these Sellers would buy their car back for what they're offering?
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#26
Racer
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Greetings:
I know where a nice , white, 4 Speed, convertible Big Block is For Sale near me,
By the most reputable Corvette Man I know..
He is the only person to have touched my car in the 10 years I have had it.
I love mine, and you are on the right track!!
Good luck and PM me if you would like.
Cheerio,
Zale
I know where a nice , white, 4 Speed, convertible Big Block is For Sale near me,
By the most reputable Corvette Man I know..
He is the only person to have touched my car in the 10 years I have had it.
I love mine, and you are on the right track!!
Good luck and PM me if you would like.
Cheerio,
Zale
BTW your car looks beautiful
#27
Drifting
I'll provide you with a little reflection. I walked through a regional NCRS judging event a couple of weeks ago. Some very beautiful cars. Their owners were often sitting on chairs, not unlike what you see at car shows. I'm sure they took a lot of pride in and had also put a lot of work or money (or both) into their cars. Of course, there were a lot of trailers in the parking lot.
As I drove my '67 home with it's original L71, I wondered who was getting the most enjoyment out of his car?? I think it was me.
In other words, if you want to drive a car (it is a lot of fun), don't get too hung up on numbers matching and correctness. Most car lovers won't care if your car has a numbers matching engine and the right U-joints on the rear axle. Just be careful that you don't pay too much for a forgery. Buy something in the color you like and with the engine and transmission you want (at the right price) and enjoy it.
As I drove my '67 home with it's original L71, I wondered who was getting the most enjoyment out of his car?? I think it was me.
In other words, if you want to drive a car (it is a lot of fun), don't get too hung up on numbers matching and correctness. Most car lovers won't care if your car has a numbers matching engine and the right U-joints on the rear axle. Just be careful that you don't pay too much for a forgery. Buy something in the color you like and with the engine and transmission you want (at the right price) and enjoy it.
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#28
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I'll provide you with a little reflection. I walked through a regional NCRS judging event a couple of weeks ago. Some very beautiful cars. Their owners were often sitting on chairs, not unlike what you see at car shows. I'm sure they took a lot of pride in and had also put a lot of work or money (or both) into their cars. Of course, there were a lot of trailers in the parking lot.
As I drove my '67 home with it's original L71, I wondered who was getting the most enjoyment out of his car?? I think it was me.
In other words, if you want to drive a car (it is a lot of fun), don't get too hung up on numbers matching and correctness. Most car lovers won't care if your car has a numbers matching engine and the right U-joints on the rear axle. Just be careful that you don't pay too much for a forgery. Buy something in the color you like and with the engine and transmission you want (at the right price) and enjoy it.
As I drove my '67 home with it's original L71, I wondered who was getting the most enjoyment out of his car?? I think it was me.
In other words, if you want to drive a car (it is a lot of fun), don't get too hung up on numbers matching and correctness. Most car lovers won't care if your car has a numbers matching engine and the right U-joints on the rear axle. Just be careful that you don't pay too much for a forgery. Buy something in the color you like and with the engine and transmission you want (at the right price) and enjoy it.
Hey I've just started my search and I'd now settle for a 67 Sunfire Yellow coupe with high output 327 4 speed. Air I can always add.
Appreciate your comments!
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If your limiting your car search to one year, one engine, with AC, and one color you are really limiting your options. While I admire you for wanting that one car ( can't blame you I like that car you want). You might want to open up to other colors. If not you could be waiting for a while.
#30
Drifting
I couldn't agree with you more! I don't want a car that I can't drive or dump the clutch on and burn some rubber. That's what they were built for!! The toughest thing I'm having trouble with is the pricing? It seems regardless of paperwork or numbers matching/non matching everyone wants in most cases $69,900. for NOM and $75,000. + for a numbers matching (whether bogus or not) ?. Add into the equation Sunfire Yellow with air/4 speed I could be looking a long time lol : )
Hey I've just started my search and I'd now settle for a 67 Sunfire Yellow coupe with high output 327 4 speed. Air I can always add.
Appreciate your comments!
Hey I've just started my search and I'd now settle for a 67 Sunfire Yellow coupe with high output 327 4 speed. Air I can always add.
Appreciate your comments!
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I told my friend to join the forum, which he did, to list his 66 427/425 4spd:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...oupe-4spd.html
What do you see wrong with it? Are these BB cars just not getting the prices any more? it is in the Northeast if you want to stop by.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...oupe-4spd.html
What do you see wrong with it? Are these BB cars just not getting the prices any more? it is in the Northeast if you want to stop by.
Ray
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I wasn't too sure about the white/blue combo interior in my 65 L-78.
I had always wanted black.
Then I saw it in person.
I'm glad I was open to different colors. The white is tough to keep clean, but it really pops, and is the main thing people comment positively about when looking at the car.
Besides the 396...
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I had always wanted black.
Then I saw it in person.
I'm glad I was open to different colors. The white is tough to keep clean, but it really pops, and is the main thing people comment positively about when looking at the car.
Besides the 396...
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I really think it has to do with the color combination. Blue/black with white interior I think look great. I've seen white with blue and white interior and it just didn't do it for me? To each their own I guess?
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The search is worthy of your time. We own a restored to original '67 327 coupe. Really pondered when searching a few years back whether to go for a non-matching numbers BB or a fully restored matching numbers SB with original tank sticker & protecto-plate for similar dollars. Narrowed our search and found a newly completed small block recognizing that our "personal" taste runs towards restoration as originally equipped in St. Louis with documentation.
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If a BB '67 coupe in yellow 4sp preferably with air is what you want you should hold out for that. These cars exist, but finding them, especially affordably, can take awhile. But you already seem to know that.
In post #20 you said you were concerned about resale value. This is a subject that riles up some here, but it's a legitimate concern to someone like me since a toy that costs over $50,000 is difficult to justify at my income level. I like yellow, and you like yellow, but most people don't. That might to affect your resale. I've owned a few yellow Corvettes. When I sold them, most callers would hang up when they heard the color. But I did sell them. I could have gotten more if they were red-black-silver or maybe white. So that guy that's going to put his yellow BB up for sale this summer has to know guys like you aren't going to ring the phone off the hook, and hopefully the price reflects that. But it might affect you when you sell someday.
That said, there doesn't seem to be many yellow '67 coupes for sale right now. I did a quick search. Too bad you don't like convertibles. I found a nice looking one in Florida, but it's not only a convert, it's also a glide/300hp... https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5609566979.html
BB '67s are never cheap; especially the 400hps. Good that you're willing to add the air. It's also good to be open to SBs, but don't do it if the BB is what you really want.
Patience. Buy what you want. These cars don't grow on trees, but neither do buyers.
In post #20 you said you were concerned about resale value. This is a subject that riles up some here, but it's a legitimate concern to someone like me since a toy that costs over $50,000 is difficult to justify at my income level. I like yellow, and you like yellow, but most people don't. That might to affect your resale. I've owned a few yellow Corvettes. When I sold them, most callers would hang up when they heard the color. But I did sell them. I could have gotten more if they were red-black-silver or maybe white. So that guy that's going to put his yellow BB up for sale this summer has to know guys like you aren't going to ring the phone off the hook, and hopefully the price reflects that. But it might affect you when you sell someday.
That said, there doesn't seem to be many yellow '67 coupes for sale right now. I did a quick search. Too bad you don't like convertibles. I found a nice looking one in Florida, but it's not only a convert, it's also a glide/300hp... https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5609566979.html
BB '67s are never cheap; especially the 400hps. Good that you're willing to add the air. It's also good to be open to SBs, but don't do it if the BB is what you really want.
Patience. Buy what you want. These cars don't grow on trees, but neither do buyers.